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Wizards giving impression no player exempt from possible trade talks

As the Washington Wizards' season spirals, the franchise has started to deliver teams an impression that every player on their roster -- including All-Star guards John Wall and Bradley Beal -- is available for discussion in trade scenarios, league sources told ESPN.

Washington's preference remains to reshape the team around Wall and Beal, but poor play among key teammates is limiting their trade value and paralyzing the Wizards' efforts to make meaningful changes to a roster that no longer appears functional together, league sources said.

The Wizards have resisted including Wall or Beal in previous trade talks, including discussions that they held for the league's past two available stars, Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler, league sources said. While Washington hasn't shopped its All-Star backcourt, it is rapidly becoming apparent to the organization that it needs to start considering overtures for them.

Washington had hopes that forwards Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre could be centerpieces of deals that could return an impact third star, but those players have fetched minimal interest on the market. Porter has a massive contract on the books, including three years, $81 million left.

Coach Scott Brooks was fierce in his criticism of the Wizards after back-to-back home losses to Brooklyn and Portland this weekend.

"We got to just play with more enthusiasm, more effort, more energy," Brooks told reporters on Sunday night. "It's embarrassing."

The Wizards are 5-11, just two games ahead of tanking Atlanta in the Southeast Division.

Beal, 25, could turn out to be the guard with the most value on the trade market -- with his 3-point shooting ability, a more manageable contract, and being three younger than Wall. Wall's contract extension starts in 2019-20, which will average $42 million annually over the next four years.

What further complicates moving Wall is the inclusion of a 15 percent trade kicker in his deal. Wall is a five-time All-Star who has been a favorite of ownership.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25320702/washington-wizards-include-john-wall-bradley-beal-trade-scenarios

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This should give Wizards fans nightmares in their sleep.

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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?

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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?

Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that  :P
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?

Gotta match salaries

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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?

Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that  :P
idk... money aside this is a deal I would consider.

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Trading Wall makes the most sense but his contract is rough.  Very good player who likely won't age very well. 

Porter is a neutral value piece due to his salary.

Oubre is a decent piece but I'm sure they'd like to keep him.

Beal is the guy they should want to keep but they may have to trade him if they want to change things up and nobody bites on Wall.


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Beal is a knockdown shooter we could need and is also a close friend of Tatum, it would make sense aside from salaries
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I'd really like Porter, but his salary is large so the team is clearly in the tax with him, and it makes matching salary difficult.  That said I'd do Smart, Morris, Yabu, Bird, Wanamaker for him (once Smart can be traded in January).

Post-Trade 8 man playoff rotation and minutes

PG - Irving 36, Rozier 12
SG - Brown 36, Rozier 12
SF - Hayward 32, Tatum 16
PF - Tatum 18, Porter 30
C - Horford 34, Baynes 14

So total minutes
36 - Irving, Brown
34 - Tatum, Horford
32 - Hayward
30 - Porter
24 - Rozier
14 - Baynes

Now that is a team I think could truly compete for the title this year and for years to come.  The rotation is much cleaner and Porter's elite shooting and defense would come in handy against the Warriors and top teams in the East.  He adds a great dimension to the bench unit and is a great small ball 4 in the modern NBA.

I'd add some vet minimum type players, especially for the guard positions post trade, but I think that team could do quite well. 

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How do we get Markieff?

Fans hate him. I don't think he has much value. Yabusele or Boston 1st would be my maximum offer, but there's no reasonable salary match.
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How do we get Markieff?

It would be totally awesome to have both Morris twins off the bench. Those two plus Smart and Baynes would crush the spirits of opposing teams

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...I kid of course but they don't have many guys who could both be helpful and plausible to get. Wall and Mahinmi don't fit and aren't worth the $, Porter's too expensive, Beal would be great but would take a lot, screw getting Dwight or Oubre, and we already have all of Keef's DNA. Not really sure who else we could use.  Satoransky if we move Rozier?  Meh.

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A couple of trade possibilities:

To Washington: Josh Jackson, Ryan Anderson, De'Anthony Melton + '19 Milwaukee 1st (protected)
To Phoenix: John Wall, Markieff Morris

To Washington: Nikola Mirotic, Solomon Hill
To New Orleans: Otto Porter

To Washington: Courtney Lee, Lance Thomas, Frank Ntilikina, Mitchell Robinson
To New York: John Wall, Jason Smith, Kelly Oubre
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Beal is the only player who interests me, but even he comes with a lot of conditions.  Whatever happened to that minutes limit he was supposedly facing for the rest of his career?  And would he buy in on defense here? 

If you like the answers to both of those questions, what would get it done?  Is Brown + Smart + cap filler a good start?  That's a heavy price, especially on defense.  I know we're all down on Brown right now, but he's still a heck of a prospect.  Even so, it might be worth it.  Acquiring a 25-year-old All-star is supposed to hurt.  And Beal's off-ball offensive game is something that we could use.
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