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Roziers realistic trade value
« on: November 08, 2018, 02:01:39 PM »

Offline CFAN38

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With the rumors floating around that Terry may be on the move I want to ask the question " What is his REALISTIC trade value.

Looking at recent trades

 last season Eric "Drew" Bledsoe was traded for a buyout cap filler (monroe) a protected 1st rd pick and a 2nd round pick.

In 2015 Reggie Jackson along with a protected 1st was traded for Kanter, Singler, Augustin and Novak. The latter two where basically cap toss ins. At the time Kanter was a 22 year old former top 3 pick averaging 14pt 8rb in 27min while also proving to be a liability on D. Singler was 26 and showing promise while averaging 7pts in 23mpg and shooting 40% from 3.

Both trades netted their teams less then amazing returns and this will certainly be a factor in if DA moves Terry. If they teams feels a shake up is needed to help the teams chemistry then I could see a trade that nets the Cs a future protected first and a vet floor spacing perimeter player. If DA and BS do not feel the over abundance of minute worthy players is hurting the chemistry then we may very well see DA keep Terry for the season and risk missing out on a future asset.   


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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 02:19:50 PM »

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A decent but lightly protected 1st makes sense.

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Are you implying that Rozier + some contract filler won't land us Anthony Davis?

Hard to believe...

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 02:56:38 PM »

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non-lottery 1st, rookie contract (either expiring or one year remaining), or veteran role player like a Morris with an extra year left...


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I would say not very high, but beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.  Somebody could watch his playoff performance and think he could be a good starter.

He is a very inefficient scorer for his career and isn't a very good playmaker. He rebounds well and gets steals.

A decent pick and a depth rotation piece would be good enough for me.
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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

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Re: Roziers realistic trade value
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 04:55:29 PM »

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Re: Roziers realistic trade value
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 06:35:15 PM »

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Higher than he's being given credit for.  This season is still in infancy.  What he did in Irving's absence last year holds much more weight than his short minutes over 10 games this year. 

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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

I agree something like this could be a likely option.  Maybe we could backfill the backup PG role at the  buyout deadline for someone on a minimum deal like George Hill, Jeremy Lin, or any other buyout candidates while staying under the tax.

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Oh come on, he’s worth at least barbecue. Maybe sour cream and onion.

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2018, 08:13:19 PM »

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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

Sending out a useful rotation player who was a major contributor in the playoffs last year for a future pick to get under the cap doesn't really sound like an Ainge deal to me, unless the future pick is potentially really good.

I think given that the team hopes to contend this year I would expect that any Rozier trade would at minimum bring back a guy who could theoretically get some minutes off the bench in a playoff series, even if it's just as a matchup-specific specialist.
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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

Sending out a useful rotation player who was a major contributor in the playoffs last year for a future pick to get under the cap doesn't really sound like an Ainge deal to me, unless the future pick is potentially really good.

I think given that the team hopes to contend this year I would expect that any Rozier trade would at minimum bring back a guy who could theoretically get some minutes off the bench in a playoff series, even if it's just as a matchup-specific specialist.
For the most part, I agree with everything you said. But if Rozier is indeed unhappy about playing time and role and starts causing problems in the locker room or demands a trade, maybe what is best for the franchise as a whole is moving him for a good pick and getting under that luxury tax because they will be in the tax for the foreseeable future.

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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

Sending out a useful rotation player who was a major contributor in the playoffs last year for a future pick to get under the cap doesn't really sound like an Ainge deal to me, unless the future pick is potentially really good.

I think given that the team hopes to contend this year I would expect that any Rozier trade would at minimum bring back a guy who could theoretically get some minutes off the bench in a playoff series, even if it's just as a matchup-specific specialist.
It doesn’t sound like a Nickagneta deal either.  Hmmm.

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 08:43:21 PM »

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I wonder, if the Celtics can get out of Jabari Bird's salary, if Ainge then sends Rozier to a team under the cap for a future pick would Boston get under the luxury tax number. If so, that sounds like a viable deal.

Sending out a useful rotation player who was a major contributor in the playoffs last year for a future pick to get under the cap doesn't really sound like an Ainge deal to me, unless the future pick is potentially really good.

I think given that the team hopes to contend this year I would expect that any Rozier trade would at minimum bring back a guy who could theoretically get some minutes off the bench in a playoff series, even if it's just as a matchup-specific specialist.
It doesn’t sound like a Nickagneta deal either.  Hmmm.
TP...you're right. I have been advocating keeping Rozier straight through the playoffs since this summer. You're going for a title, so keep him and deal with his free agency next summer.

But if Rozier forces Danny's hand, Ainge might have to move him.

 

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