Robert Williams (Merged Threads)

[Hoopvortex]

Lost in all the "immaturity" concerns were reports that Williams slid in the draft in part due to concerns about his knee.  I haven't seen a lot of details about what those knee issues were, other than that they concerned at least some NBA teams.

Last night, pain in the area of preexisting knee tendinitis was mentioned as a reason that Williams' didn't return to the game.

Is this a concern going forward?  Has anybody heard any details of the knee issues Williams had?  Could simple tendinitis be enough to red flag a player leading up to the draft, or is it likely something more?

Quadriceps tendinitis from overuse is very common among basketball players. Banging and bruising a tendon that is already inflamed is cause for caution, not concern. Simple tendinitis by itself should not be a red flag.

Multiple muscles are used in jumping and sprinting, not just the quads; training hip joint and back muscles to take more responsibility is possible, in other words, to relieve the work load at the knee.

[Roy H.]

Lost in all the "immaturity" concerns were reports that Williams slid in the draft in part due to concerns about his knee.  I haven't seen a lot of details about what those knee issues were, other than that they concerned at least some NBA teams.

Last night, pain in the area of preexisting knee tendinitis was mentioned as a reason that Williams' didn't return to the game.

Is this a concern going forward?  Has anybody heard any details of the knee issues Williams had?  Could simple tendinitis be enough to red flag a player leading up to the draft, or is it likely something more?

Quadriceps tendinitis from overuse is very common among basketball players. Banging and bruising a tendon that is already inflamed is cause for caution, not concern. Simple tendinitis by itself should not be a red flag.

Multiple muscles are used in jumping and sprinting, not just the quads; training hip joint and back muscles to take more responsibility is possible, in other words, to relieve the work load at the knee.

If the injury / condition was part of the reason for the slide, does that suggest its more than tendinitis? Or is tendinitis a reason that super-cautious teams would pass?

[Hoopvortex]

Lost in all the "immaturity" concerns were reports that Williams slid in the draft in part due to concerns about his knee.  I haven't seen a lot of details about what those knee issues were, other than that they concerned at least some NBA teams.

Last night, pain in the area of preexisting knee tendinitis was mentioned as a reason that Williams' didn't return to the game.

Is this a concern going forward?  Has anybody heard any details of the knee issues Williams had?  Could simple tendinitis be enough to red flag a player leading up to the draft, or is it likely something more?

Quadriceps tendinitis from overuse is very common among basketball players. Banging and bruising a tendon that is already inflamed is cause for caution, not concern. Simple tendinitis by itself should not be a red flag.

Multiple muscles are used in jumping and sprinting, not just the quads; training hip joint and back muscles to take more responsibility is possible, in other words, to relieve the work load at the knee.

If the injury / condition was part of the reason for the slide, does that suggest its more than tendinitis? Or is tendinitis a reason that super-cautious teams would pass?

It suggests more, with the caveat that there are lots of degrees of extent and severity. One thing is obvious even to a casual observer: whatever the condition, if any, it wasn’t stopping him from jumping, and jumping high.

[hwangjini_1]

I am largely ignorant of the circumstances surrounding the draft status of Williams, but why let that stop me from posting?  I know people talked about some sort of problem with his knee, but I think possibly compounding that was the lack of availability of medical information.

He didn't go to the combine and a number of teams did not have that info. Couple that with rumors on his knee, lack of mid/long shooting, and suspensions, and I can see why some teams may have elected to pass on him.

https://nesn.com/2018/06/nba-rumors-heres-why-robert-williams-slipped-to-celtics-in-nba-draft/

[Beat LA]

I am largely ignorant of the circumstances surrounding the draft status of Williams, but why let that stop me from posting?  I know people talked about some sort of problem with his knee, but I think possibly compounding that was the lack of availability of medical information.

He didn't go to the combine and a number of teams did not have that info. Couple that with rumors on his knee, lack of mid/long shooting, and suspensions, and I can see why some teams may have elected to pass on him.

https://nesn.com/2018/06/nba-rumors-heres-why-robert-williams-slipped-to-celtics-in-nba-draft/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKZJdaiJF84

[celticinorlando]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

[green_bballers13]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

I agree with this. He's a talented project. The Celtics already have a solid 8 guys to take up a majority of the minutes. Unless he's producing at a high level (not likely in his first year), he's going to get less than 10 min a game. I'd rather see him play 30+ while working on his offensive game. This also clears up another spot for a player that can help the team this year.

Williams is a high upside development pick. While he is likely capable of playing NBA defense right now, I'm not sure he's more than a replacement level player at this point.

[kmart12]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

I agree with this. He's a talented project. The Celtics already have a solid 8 guys to take up a majority of the minutes. Unless he's producing at a high level (not likely in his first year), he's going to get less than 10 min a game. I'd rather see him play 30+ while working on his offensive game. This also clears up another spot for a player that can help the team this year.

Williams is a high upside development pick. While he is likely capable of playing NBA defense right now, I'm not sure he's more than a replacement level player at this point.

I would be content if he could produce at a replacement-level right now; he'd be a nice stopgap for Baynes and Horford.

[Hoopvortex]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

He looks ready to me to merit NBA minutes, but he’s got three or four bigs in front of him, plus a couple of swings.

He’s physically ready (given a healthy knee); he seems to have pretty good feel for the game; and he is skilled at things the team needs. I’m going to predict no more than spot minutes until January or February, by which time there’s a good chance that an opportunity will open up for him.

[Hoopvortex]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

I agree with this. He's a talented project. The Celtics already have a solid 8 guys to take up a majority of the minutes. Unless he's producing at a high level (not likely in his first year), he's going to get less than 10 min a game. I'd rather see him play 30+ while working on his offensive game. This also clears up another spot for a player that can help the team this year.

Williams is a high upside development pick. While he is likely capable of playing NBA defense right now, I'm not sure he's more than a replacement level player at this point.

Given the issues with his shot mechanics, a lot of reps in the G-League in November/December looks like a good way to address them.

[IDreamCeltics]

After two games of summer league play Robert Williams is posting per 36 numbers of 24 pts and 12 rebounds.  Is he arguably our best big?

[saltlover]

No.

[Roy H.]

Williams is being held out again, reportedly for precautionary reasons.

[JHTruth]

Williams is being held out again, reportedly for precautionary reasons.

Sucks for fans, but the right call. I mean it's SL. Remember when the Lakers sat Lonzo and Ingram for the entire SL pretty much..

[JHTruth]

I believe Williams will spend most of the season in Maine and will not be much in the rotation.

He looks ready to me to merit NBA minutes, but he’s got three or four bigs in front of him, plus a couple of swings.

He’s physically ready (given a healthy knee); he seems to have pretty good feel for the game; and he is skilled at things the team needs. I’m going to predict no more than spot minutes until January or February, by which time there’s a good chance that an opportunity will open up for him.

I think he'll start the season in Maine, if for no other reason to get some burn and then be on the big roster in the Spring and into the Playoffs..