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Do you think Kahwi Leonard comes to Boston?

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Voting closed: June 29, 2018, 11:30:27 PM

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2018, 02:54:13 PM »

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Philly just became a treadmill team.

Until Ben Simmons can hit shots outside of 5 feet...they will struggle to attract ball dominate players that need the ball.

Plus other than Embidd and Simmons, their roster is really the same type of guys...Dario, Covington...Embiid is not durable either and Fultz looks destined to be bust.

Maybe they still get one of these guys, but it really seems like there was a plan all along to have Leonard, George and Lebron in LA. Then there are no stars on the market. Cousins goes back to New Orleans, Paul stays in Houston. Durant stays in Golden State. We watched Dallas every year go for max level free agents, and lose every single year. The closest they ever got was Deandre Jordan locked in a room with his clipper teammates.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2018, 02:55:32 PM »

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Can you split the ball three ways?  They still won’t beat golden state.

I do think that George, Lebron and Leonard would beat Golden State. If healthy Lebron and Leonard are two of the top 4 players in the NBA next season.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2018, 02:55:38 PM »

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Boston, like usual, has the best pieces to deal.

I would prefer not making the deal but if I had to I keep Tatum and deal Brown with the 2019 Kings pick

No, KL's value should go down after their first attempt in February trade deadline. And because of what KL is demanding of his team. Brown/Rozier/LAC pick, get it done if anything.

Leonard wanting out means that SA will take less in a deal, but the price will be high based on how many teams want him. If the Lakers are willing to go all in (and it seems like they are), the only way we get him is by out bidding them. That will take more than Brown, Rozier, and a couple of seconds (which that pick will likely turn into)

Brown and the Kings Pick would probably just be the start

The Lakers are almost certainly going to try to attach Luol Deng’s terrible contract to a deal.  That greatly lowers the value of what they can offer, as taking on the contract hampers the Spurs financial flexibility for multiple seasons..

Also, the Clippers pick only turns into one 2nd.  Sad.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2018, 02:55:41 PM »

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I still think George will end up in Philly.


Lakers will need to trade Lonzo because that's a circus you don't need when you're contending.


I'd be interested to see if they can get Portland to consider trading Dame for Lonzo+Kuzma.

I am pretty surprised by this take. George says he wants to go to LA years ago, they actually get good and will have a max slot and he moves the furthest possible spot from his hometown?

That would be a head scratcher.


If he really doesn't care about basketball and just wants to be in LA then cool.  If the Lakers already have Kawhi and LeBron, what role is there for George?  He'd be the 3rd option.

He could go to Philly and make a huge difference for them.  Also, with LeBron out of the conference he would have a great shot at making the Finals.

In the West, even if the Lakers have Kawhi, Bron, and PG, they'd be one of three superteams out there. 


Philly makes a lot more sense for PG from a basketball standpoint.  I guess it depends how much he just wants a fun LA lifestyle and doesn't care if he's the 3rd option with a lower chance of actually making the Finals.
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2018, 02:56:09 PM »

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So we would have to move Kyrie, Heyward or Horford.     And why would S/A want Kryie when he wants to go to NYC.     

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2018, 02:56:22 PM »

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Expect the the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers and Clippers to be the main four teams pursuing Kawhi Leonard, per sources. Teams with top picks could always jump into the sweepstakes, but the risk would be significant considering Leonard has just one more season left on his contract.

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2018, 02:56:46 PM »

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can the celtics even afford leonard without giving up irving, heyward or horford?

Leonard *only* makes ~$20 million right now. We would need to send out ~$16 million to match.  Brown+Morris puts us at ~$10.5 million, throw in Yabu+Rozier (or one of them plus Semi and Nader) and you're there.  And we would still be able to re-sign Smart plus offer Baynes somewhere around $5 million
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2018, 02:58:24 PM »

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Horfod/Brown/Rozier for Kawhi/Gasol   ha, j/k

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #83 on: June 15, 2018, 02:58:47 PM »

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As long as he doens't end up with LeBron or in Philly, I don't care where he lands.


Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #84 on: June 15, 2018, 02:59:15 PM »

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I really do not want to see Brown moved....or Kyrie or Hayward...

Prefer rozier, smart, picks
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #85 on: June 15, 2018, 03:00:16 PM »

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can the celtics even afford leonard without giving up irving, heyward or horford?

Leonard *only* makes ~$20 million right now. We would need to send out ~$16 million to match.  Brown+Morris puts us at ~$10.5 million, throw in Yabu+Rozier (or one of them plus Semi and Nader) and you're there.  And we would still be able to re-sign Smart plus offer Baynes somewhere around $5 million

wow. ok, then.    now it gets interesting.    i hate hate hate the idea of giving up Brown,  but leonard is a better version if he is healthy next year and could win you a championship.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #86 on: June 15, 2018, 03:00:39 PM »

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I really do not want to see Brown moved....or Kyrie or Hayward...

Prefer rozier, smart, picks

Get real.
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #87 on: June 15, 2018, 03:00:44 PM »

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #88 on: June 15, 2018, 03:01:37 PM »

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I still think George will end up in Philly.


Lakers will need to trade Lonzo because that's a circus you don't need when you're contending.


I'd be interested to see if they can get Portland to consider trading Dame for Lonzo+Kuzma.

I am pretty surprised by this take. George says he wants to go to LA years ago, they actually get good and will have a max slot and he moves the furthest possible spot from his hometown?

That would be a head scratcher.


If he really doesn't care about basketball and just wants to be in LA then cool.  If the Lakers already have Kawhi and LeBron, what role is there for George?  He'd be the 3rd option.

He could go to Philly and make a huge difference for them.  Also, with LeBron out of the conference he would have a great shot at making the Finals.

In the West, even if the Lakers have Kawhi, Bron, and PG, they'd be one of three superteams out there. 


Philly makes a lot more sense for PG from a basketball standpoint.  I guess it depends how much he just wants a fun LA lifestyle and doesn't care if he's the 3rd option with a lower chance of actually making the Finals.

Why would George be the third option? I think he would be the second option and Leonard would be the third. Also why would George be a better option in Philly? Embiid took 17 shots per 30 minutes last year and Simmons obviously has the ball a ton.

Considering he said he wanted to go LA when they were horrible and didn't have any contract space, it obviously is pretty important to him.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #89 on: June 15, 2018, 03:03:40 PM »

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Expect the the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers and Clippers to be the main four teams pursuing Kawhi Leonard, per sources. Teams with top picks could always jump into the sweepstakes, but the risk would be significant considering Leonard has just one more season left on his contract.

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We can dream, but one of his biggest beefs was his shoe contract being small from being in a small market. For selling shoes he is not going to think Boston or Philly has a chance of changing that.

 

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