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Do you think Kahwi Leonard comes to Boston?

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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1095 on: December 28, 2018, 09:03:28 PM »

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anyone notice that SO FAR this season it's not KL that makes all the difference but actually Lowry?  they beat clips and warriors (and others) w/o Kawhi but don't play as well when Lowry is out.  Tonight they are down 30 to the magic

although in the playoffs of course their ceiling is higher with both

They had Lowry last year though, and how far did that get them?

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1096 on: December 28, 2018, 10:44:34 PM »

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anyone notice that SO FAR this season it's not KL that makes all the difference but actually Lowry?  they beat clips and warriors (and others) w/o Kawhi but don't play as well when Lowry is out.  Tonight they are down 30 to the magic

although in the playoffs of course their ceiling is higher with both

They had Lowry last year though, and how far did that get them?
until they ran into Lebron James.  Same thing in each of the last 3 seasons.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1097 on: December 28, 2018, 10:47:45 PM »

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anyone notice that SO FAR this season it's not KL that makes all the difference but actually Lowry?  they beat clips and warriors (and others) w/o Kawhi but don't play as well when Lowry is out.  Tonight they are down 30 to the magic

although in the playoffs of course their ceiling is higher with both

They had Lowry last year though, and how far did that get them?
until they ran into Lebron James.  Same thing in each of the last 3 seasons.

And Kawhi has already beaten Lebron in a playoff series in which he was the primary defender on Lebron. Kawhi definitely makes the Raptors a much better team.

Whether or not he stays there after this season is a whole other matter though.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1098 on: December 29, 2018, 01:13:57 AM »

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anyone notice that SO FAR this season it's not KL that makes all the difference but actually Lowry?  they beat clips and warriors (and others) w/o Kawhi but don't play as well when Lowry is out.  Tonight they are down 30 to the magic

although in the playoffs of course their ceiling is higher with both

They had Lowry last year though, and how far did that get them?
until they ran into Lebron James.  Same thing in each of the last 3 seasons.

And Kawhi has already beaten Lebron in a playoff series in which he was the primary defender on Lebron. Kawhi definitely makes the Raptors a much better team.

Whether or not he stays there after this season is a whole other matter though.
His team with Pop and his big 3 has beaten Lebron in a playoff
Kawhi on Raptors has achieved nothing so far

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1099 on: December 29, 2018, 06:28:07 AM »

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Yes, I think that after initially fans didn't give enough attention to Leonard that they're now fearing to continue to underrate and therefore overrate him. Another factor is that people always want to address team's success to individual accomplishments. But Toronto was already an excellent team when DeRozan was there.

Leonard is Toronto's best player, he's a superstar and top 10 in the league, but he isn't a threat like Durant, James or Antetokounmpo who carry their teams every game and are basically unstoppable.
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Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1100 on: January 13, 2019, 01:01:12 AM »

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Yes, I think that after initially fans didn't give enough attention to Leonard that they're now fearing to continue to underrate and therefore overrate him. Another factor is that people always want to address team's success to individual accomplishments. But Toronto was already an excellent team when DeRozan was there.

Leonard is Toronto's best player, he's a superstar and top 10 in the league, but he isn't a threat like Durant, James or Antetokounmpo who carry their teams every game and are basically unstoppable.

I beg to differ Leonard is absolutely unstoppable and can go toe to toe against anyone in this league, his incredible defense also is game changing Leonard impacts the game so heavily on both ends of the floor he can absolutely carry Toronto to the finals.

Think about this way Leonard will lock down the best player on any team and if you don't double team or triple team him on offense he'll shoot over you from anywhere he's complete basketball player.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1101 on: January 13, 2019, 01:36:48 AM »

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I'm thinking Ainge should've probably made an offer for Kawhi Leonard over the summer. Obviously, include Rozier/Brown/another player and a pick in the deal. He'd give the Celtics more wins and possibly a trip to the Finals. The Raptors-powered team wouldn't be what they are today if Leonard came here.

But no guarantees of him signing an extension, though Danny can play the convincing game.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1102 on: January 13, 2019, 01:41:41 AM »

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I'm thinking Ainge should've probably made an offer for Kawhi Leonard over the summer. Obviously, include Rozier/Brown/another player and a pick in the deal. He'd give the Celtics more wins and possibly a trip to the Finals. The Raptors-powered team wouldn't be what they are today if Leonard came here.

But no guarantees of him signing an extension, though Danny can play the convincing game.
That offer doesn't get Kawhi.  The Spurs wanted a star caliber play in return. 

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1103 on: January 14, 2019, 10:43:20 PM »

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I'm thinking Ainge should've probably made an offer for Kawhi Leonard over the summer. Obviously, include Rozier/Brown/another player and a pick in the deal. He'd give the Celtics more wins and possibly a trip to the Finals. The Raptors-powered team wouldn't be what they are today if Leonard came here.

But no guarantees of him signing an extension, though Danny can play the convincing game.
That offer doesn't get Kawhi.  The Spurs wanted a star caliber play in return.
They wanted to still compete, I wouldn't be so sure they were actually looking for a star.  If Boston had offered Rozier, Brown, Morris, and a couple of 1st's early enough in the process, they might have had a real chance to get Kawhi and depending on what those 1st's were might have been the front runner. 

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1104 on: January 24, 2019, 08:00:09 PM »

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https://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-kawhi-leonard-rancho-santa-fe-home-20190124-story.html

Where Kawhi Leonard lands next basketball season is anyone’s guess, but it appears the Toronto Raptors star and impending free agent will be spending his offseasons in Rancho Santa Fe.

Leonard has paid $13.3 million for a home in the affluent San Diego County community. The purchase was made using a corporate entity that lists the two-time Defensive Player of the Year as manager, public records show.

Set on a lot of more than five acres, the Tuscan-style estate has been extensively renovated and updated for modern living.

Amenities include a workout facility with a dry bar, a home theater, a gourmet kitchen and two offices. A steel-framed wall of glass looks into a temperature-controlled wine vault in the tasting and bar room.
The 13,000 square feet of interior also holds seven bedroom suites including a customized master suite with two dressing rooms and a spa-like bath. There are 10.5 bathrooms in all.

Outdoors, the grounds center on a multi-section pool complete with a raised spa, a conversation/fire pit, waterfall features and Baja decks. Various patio areas, a tennis/sports court, fruit orchards and lawn fill out the setting.

The property had been listed for $15.995 million at the time of the sale, records show.

The purchase is a homecoming of sorts for Leonard, who played two seasons of college basketball at San Diego State University before entering the 2011 NBA Draft.

The 27-year-old forward began his career with the Spurs, with whom he spent seven seasons and won an NBA title in 2014. After requesting a trade from the team last year, Leonard was traded by San Antonio to Toronto in a deal involving fellow all-star DeMar DeRozan.

He will be an unrestricted free agent this summer.

Laura Barry and Jason barry of Barry Estates were the listing agents. Laura Barry also represented the buyer.

Re: Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)
« Reply #1105 on: January 24, 2019, 08:34:39 PM »

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He often drives a rehabbed ’97 Chevy Tahoe, nicknamed Gas Guzzler, which he drove across Southern California’s Inland Empire as a teenager. “It runs,” Leonard explains, “and it’s paid off.”

Blue book value on that baby is about $1,150, depending on your zip code. Not bad.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/san-antonio-spurs-kawhi-leonard-1997-chevy-tahoe-hates-spotlight-star-031516

So I guess he has different requirements in a home than he does a car. So much for frugal Kawhi. I guess if you have a bazillion dollars, you can splurge every now and then.

 

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