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Do you think Kahwi Leonard comes to Boston?

Yes
14 (15.9%)
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Voting closed: June 29, 2018, 11:30:27 PM

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2018, 02:34:55 PM »

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If Boston makes the best offer and Kawhi still demands LA, his reputation will rightfully tank just like Durant’s.

I hope SA forces him to go east or play out his contract. Players who aren’t even free agents shouldn’t  be able to demand their way to a super team.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2018, 02:37:21 PM »

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If Boston makes the best offer and Kawhi still demands LA, his reputation will rightfully tank just like Durant’s.

I hope SA forces him to go east or play out his contract. Players who aren’t even free agents shouldn’t  be able to demand their way to a super team.
why not? players should run their lives so as to please fans' concepts of how teams should be built?
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2018, 02:38:41 PM »

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Boston, like usual, has the best pieces to deal.

I would prefer not making the deal but if I had to I keep Tatum and deal Brown with the 2019 Kings pick

No, KL's value should go down after their first attempt in February trade deadline. And because of what KL is demanding of his team. Brown/Rozier/LAC pick, get it done if anything.


If they could get him for Rozier and the 2019 Kings pick keeping Brown...that would be ideal.

I wonder what else it would take?

Rozier is a starting caliber player and would pair nicely with Aldridge. The 2019 SAC pick can be valuable, but nothing guaranteed with the top pick protected and could drop down into the 20’s as the PHI pick.

Would something like Morris and more picks be enough? I’d give up both MEM and LAC and some BOS picks if we could keep Brown/Tatum.
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2018, 02:39:58 PM »

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I still think George will end up in Philly.


Lakers will need to trade Lonzo because that's a circus you don't need when you're contending.


I'd be interested to see if they can get Portland to consider trading Dame for Lonzo+Kuzma.

I am pretty surprised by this take. George says he wants to go to LA years ago, they actually get good and will have a max slot and he moves the furthest possible spot from his hometown?

That would be a head scratcher.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2018, 02:40:56 PM »

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If Boston makes the best offer and Kawhi still demands LA, his reputation will rightfully tank just like Durant’s.

I hope SA forces him to go east or play out his contract. Players who aren’t even free agents shouldn’t  be able to demand their way to a super team.
why not? players should run their lives so as to please fans' concepts of how teams should be built?

It annoys me as a Boston fan...but then I remember that this is partially how we got Kyrie, because he exploited his power to leave Cleveland...and then I also remember that any of this is made possible by the collective bargaining agreement; if the owners wanted to, they could go back to longer contracts, which would get rid of a lot of this, but they are the ones who wanted shorter contracts.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2018, 02:43:37 PM »

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It was reported months ago that Kawhi was upset that lesser players get bigger shoe deals than he does.  So, he wants exposure.

Under those circumstances, LA and NYK make sense, even if I'd argue that winning is the best exposure. 


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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2018, 02:43:40 PM »

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I would easily flip Irving for Leonard.

Hayward
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Tatum
Brown
Horford


Wonderful positionless team

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2018, 02:47:09 PM »

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Boston, like usual, has the best pieces to deal.

I would prefer not making the deal but if I had to I keep Tatum and deal Brown with the 2019 Kings pick

No, KL's value should go down after their first attempt in February trade deadline. And because of what KL is demanding of his team. Brown/Rozier/LAC pick, get it done if anything.

Leonard wanting out means that SA will take less in a deal, but the price will be high based on how many teams want him. If the Lakers are willing to go all in (and it seems like they are), the only way we get him is by out bidding them. That will take more than Brown, Rozier, and a couple of seconds (which that pick will likely turn into)

Brown and the Kings Pick would probably just be the start
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2018, 02:49:12 PM »

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Philly just became a treadmill team.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2018, 02:50:25 PM »

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can the celtics even afford leonard without giving up irving, heyward or horford?

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2018, 02:51:10 PM »

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It was reported months ago that Kawhi was upset that lesser players get bigger shoe deals than he does.  So, he wants exposure.

Under those circumstances, LA and NYK make sense, even if I'd argue that winning is the best exposure.

Why is SA to blame for that?

Maybe it’s his personality. Just because you are great doesn’t mean you’re marketable.

There’s always Big Baller Brand...
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2018, 02:51:32 PM »

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can the celtics even afford leonard without giving up irving, heyward or horford?

No

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2018, 02:51:49 PM »

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Philly just became a treadmill team.

Until Ben Simmons can hit shots outside of 5 feet...they will struggle to attract ball dominate players that need the ball.

Plus other than Embidd and Simmons, their roster is really the same type of guys...Dario, Covington...Embiid is not durable either and Fultz looks destined to be bust.
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2018, 02:51:58 PM »

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Can you split the ball three ways?  They still won’t beat golden state.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2018, 02:54:00 PM »

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