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[KungPoweChicken]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg, only about 2 points fewer than his career average.

[timpiker]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Hayward as the 4th best player?  Uh, I politely disagree with your opinion.  In my opinion he's the 2nd best, just a little less than Kyrie.  If Brown and Tatum are better than Hayward at this time in their careers, the C's would be in the finals.

[Roy H.]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg?

Because his production has increased every year of his career. He’s not a 15.6ppg scorer. Rather, he was a Western Conference All-Star averaging 22 ppg, comparing favorably to Paul George and Jimmy Butler.

Marcus Morris scores 13 ppg this year. Hayward is obviously more talented and accomplished than Morris, so it seems a bit odd that Hayward wouldn’t exceed that projection.

[KungPoweChicken]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Hayward as the 4th best player?  Uh, I politely disagree with your opinion.  In my opinion he's the 2nd best, just a little less than Kyrie.  If Brown and Tatum are better than Hayward at this time in their careers, the C's would be in the finals.

Tatum, a rookie, and Brown, a second year player, led the Celtics as far as a team can go while not reaching the finals. Gordon Hayward, in his seven seasons at Utah, played a total of 15 playoff games.

[gouki88]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg, only about 2 points fewer than his career average.

seriously ?? Goodness gracious what a bad take

[KungPoweChicken]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg?

Because his production has increased every year of his career. He’s not a 15.6ppg scorer. Rather, he was a Western Conference All-Star averaging 22 ppg, comparing favorably to Paul George and Jimmy Butler.

Marcus Morris scores 13 ppg this year. Hayward is obviously more talented and accomplished than Morris, so it seems a bit odd that Hayward wouldn’t exceed that projection.

Fair enough. But, his numbers increased as he became the number one option. His efficiency, however, didn't necessarily increase. Given Hayward's mediocre efficiency, I cannot see how the offense would benefit by giving him more shots than either Tatum or Brown, who have both proven to be more efficient (Tatum especially). Not the end all be all, but Tatum had a higher TS% as a rookie than every season Hayward ever had except 2016-2017. Last season, Jaylen Brown's TS% was .562. Hayward's career TS% is literally .563. Also, take into consideration that Brown's TS% is adversely affected with poor FT shooting. If he can improve his FTs, his TS% should only continue to rise. I am not saying that Hayward is a bad player. Rather, I am saying I do not see the substantial evidence to declare him a better player than either Brown or Tatum, or a player deserving of more shots/touches, especially when he is coming off a significant injury. He is also a bad contract at this point.

[Monkhouse]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Hayward as the 4th best player?  Uh, I politely disagree with your opinion.  In my opinion he's the 2nd best, just a little less than Kyrie.  If Brown and Tatum are better than Hayward at this time in their careers, the C's would be in the finals.

Tatum, a rookie, and Brown, a second year player, led the Celtics as far as a team can go while not reaching the finals. Gordon Hayward, in his seven seasons at Utah, played a total of 15 playoff games.

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg, only about 2 points fewer than his career average.

You are being very harsh on Hayward... While it's a serious injury, 13/3/3? Those are awful numbers. While it's advisable to set notable expectations like 14/4/5, which I think he can certainly eclipse or match easily. He hasn't posted those numbers since his 3rd year, and they weren't sure if he was a SF or SG at that point, so his numbers fluctuated. Listen, I definitely think he's going to be playing on a minutes restriction, but I think if his scoring numbers take a hit, his assists will certainly go up. Also the Jazz teams he was on before Gobert came over were really meh...

Their best players were Millsap, and Jefferson, who were both not a great match defensively. They weren't able to make up for each other's mistakes, and the Jazz team were still trying to figure out what to do with Kanter and Favors in the mix.

2015-2016 is really when Favors, Gobert, and Hayward were really stepping up as their big 3. Numbers not really that much different, but they played better than the year before. Plus Gobert was still developing, so having one of the best defensive big men to make up for defensive lapses certainly helped.

I think my prediction would be 16 PPG, 4-5 RPG, and 5-6 APG for Hayward. I think while people aren't going to be as pleased with his lower scoring numbers, Hayward will certainly put forth more effort on defense or sharing the ball. One of his most underrated aspect of his game.

[IDreamCeltics]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg?

Because his production has increased every year of his career. He’s not a 15.6ppg scorer. Rather, he was a Western Conference All-Star averaging 22 ppg, comparing favorably to Paul George and Jimmy Butler.

Marcus Morris scores 13 ppg this year. Hayward is obviously more talented and accomplished than Morris, so it seems a bit odd that Hayward wouldn’t exceed that projection.

Fair enough. But, his numbers increased as he became the number one option. His efficiency, however, didn't necessarily increase. Given Hayward's mediocre efficiency, I cannot see how the offense would benefit by giving him more shots than either Tatum or Brown, who have both proven to be more efficient (Tatum especially). Not the end all be all, but Tatum had a higher TS% as a rookie than every season Hayward ever had except 2016-2017. Last season, Jaylen Brown's TS% was .562. Hayward's career TS% is literally .563. Also, take into consideration that Brown's TS% is adversely affected with poor FT shooting. If he can improve his FTs, his TS% should only continue to rise. I am not saying that Hayward is a bad player. Rather, I am saying I do not see the substantial evidence to declare him a better player than either Brown or Tatum, or a player deserving of more shots/touches, especially when he is coming off a significant injury.

Hayward is not a bad player, however he IS a bad contract.  I hope they can find a way to get out from under it. 

[Monkhouse]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg?

Because his production has increased every year of his career. He’s not a 15.6ppg scorer. Rather, he was a Western Conference All-Star averaging 22 ppg, comparing favorably to Paul George and Jimmy Butler.

Marcus Morris scores 13 ppg this year. Hayward is obviously more talented and accomplished than Morris, so it seems a bit odd that Hayward wouldn’t exceed that projection.

Fair enough. But, his numbers increased as he became the number one option. His efficiency, however, didn't necessarily increase. Given Hayward's mediocre efficiency, I cannot see how the offense would benefit by giving him more shots than either Tatum or Brown, who have both proven to be more efficient (Tatum especially). Not the end all be all, but Tatum had a higher TS% as a rookie than every season Hayward ever had except 2016-2017. Last season, Jaylen Brown's TS% was .562. Hayward's career TS% is literally .563. Also, take into consideration that Brown's TS% is adversely affected with poor FT shooting. If he can improve his FTs, his TS% should only continue to rise. I am not saying that Hayward is a bad player. Rather, I am saying I do not see the substantial evidence to declare him a better player than either Brown or Tatum, or a player deserving of more shots/touches, especially when he is coming off a significant injury.

Hayward is not a bad player, however he IS a bad contract.  I hope they can find a way to get out from under it.

Yeah I know it's blasphemous to say this, but I'm not convinced Hayward is going to be that much better than Tatum or Brown in 2-3 years. I think these two are special. Just in the way they play, how unique they are, (Brown being very intellectually smart, and well rounded in political advancements and array of interests,) Tatum being an absolute god stopper with his advanced footwork and offensive moves. They really are the Jay Team, and I think Hayward would still be a perfect fit in the mix. But his contract is way too high...

[Vermont Green]

It seems smart to take the hardware out now rather than wait, certainly after what happened to Kyrie.

In terms of what to expect from Hayward, Paul George broke his leg on Aug 1, 2014 and came back to play 6 games at the end of the 2014/15 season.  He played a full season in 2015/16 but I remember he did not look the same to me for much of that season.  He still got his numbers but with lower efficiency.  So call it 15-18 months to be fully back with all his timing and touch.

I am going to temper my expectations for the first couple of months of this coming season for Hayward.  It sounds like he will be fully healed but needs to build strength and also get his timing and touch back (at NBA game speed).  He had a gruesome injury, probably worse than George's.  It will be great to see him back on the court but reserve judgement on his recovery until at least January 2019.

[KungPoweChicken]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Hayward as the 4th best player?  Uh, I politely disagree with your opinion.  In my opinion he's the 2nd best, just a little less than Kyrie.  If Brown and Tatum are better than Hayward at this time in their careers, the C's would be in the finals.

Tatum, a rookie, and Brown, a second year player, led the Celtics as far as a team can go while not reaching the finals. Gordon Hayward, in his seven seasons at Utah, played a total of 15 playoff games.

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg, only about 2 points fewer than his career average.

You are being very harsh on Hayward... While it's a serious injury, 13/3/3? Those are awful numbers. While it's advisable to set notable expectations like 14/4/5, which I think he can certainly eclipse or match easily. He hasn't posted those numbers since his 3rd year, and they weren't sure if he was a SF or SG at that point, so his numbers fluctuated. Listen, I definitely think he's going to be playing on a minutes restriction, but I think if his scoring numbers take a hit, his assists will certainly go up. Also the Jazz teams he was on before Gobert came over were really meh...

Their best players were Millsap, and Jefferson, who were both not a great match defensively. They weren't able to make up for each other's mistakes, and the Jazz team were still trying to figure out what to do with Kanter and Favors in the mix.

2015-2016 is really when Favors, Gobert, and Hayward were really stepping up as their big 3. Numbers not really that much different, but they played better than the year before. Plus Gobert was still developing, so having one of the best defensive big men to make up for defensive lapses certainly helped.

I think my prediction would be 16 PPG, 4-5 RPG, and 5-6 APG for Hayward. I think while people aren't going to be as pleased with his lower scoring numbers, Hayward will certainly put forth more effort on defense or sharing the ball. One of his most underrated aspect of his game.

16ppg? Keep in mind that Tatum essentially had Hayward's career high in TS% as a rookie (.586 vs. .595) and averaged 13.9ppg on 10.4 shots a game. Tatum also did this with Kyrie missing 20 games. Assuming a healthy team, and the fact that Tatum only averaged 13.9ppg, why do you think Hayward is going to average 16ppg coming off a significant injury/on how many shot attempts?

[Monkhouse]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Hayward as the 4th best player?  Uh, I politely disagree with your opinion.  In my opinion he's the 2nd best, just a little less than Kyrie.  If Brown and Tatum are better than Hayward at this time in their careers, the C's would be in the finals.

Tatum, a rookie, and Brown, a second year player, led the Celtics as far as a team can go while not reaching the finals. Gordon Hayward, in his seven seasons at Utah, played a total of 15 playoff games.

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Are those expectations based upon any kind of reality?

Yes, they are. For his career, he only averages 15.6ppg. He is now returning from a left tibia fracture/dislocation while playing on a team that has many scoring options. Under these circumstances, why is it unrealistic to believe he will average 13ppg, only about 2 points fewer than his career average.

You are being very harsh on Hayward... While it's a serious injury, 13/3/3? Those are awful numbers. While it's advisable to set notable expectations like 14/4/5, which I think he can certainly eclipse or match easily. He hasn't posted those numbers since his 3rd year, and they weren't sure if he was a SF or SG at that point, so his numbers fluctuated. Listen, I definitely think he's going to be playing on a minutes restriction, but I think if his scoring numbers take a hit, his assists will certainly go up. Also the Jazz teams he was on before Gobert came over were really meh...

Their best players were Millsap, and Jefferson, who were both not a great match defensively. They weren't able to make up for each other's mistakes, and the Jazz team were still trying to figure out what to do with Kanter and Favors in the mix.

2015-2016 is really when Favors, Gobert, and Hayward were really stepping up as their big 3. Numbers not really that much different, but they played better than the year before. Plus Gobert was still developing, so having one of the best defensive big men to make up for defensive lapses certainly helped.

I think my prediction would be 16 PPG, 4-5 RPG, and 5-6 APG for Hayward. I think while people aren't going to be as pleased with his lower scoring numbers, Hayward will certainly put forth more effort on defense or sharing the ball. One of his most underrated aspect of his game.

16ppg? Keep in mind that Tatum essentially had Hayward's career high in TS% as a rookie (.586 vs. .595) and averaged 13.9ppg on 10.4 shots a game. Tatum also did this with Kyrie missing 20 games. Assuming a healthy team, and the fact that Tatum only averaged 13.9ppg, why do you think Hayward is going to average 16ppg coming off a significant injury/on how many shot attempts?

Either Hayward or Tatum is going to be playing with the 2nd and 1st bench. As we've seen Stevens doesn't mind staggering minutes with his starters and bench players.

I'm almost more than 90% sure Hayward will definitely average more than 13 PPG, at the very least.

[BitterJim]

I think people are forgetting how good Hayward is in all aspects of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt8p6a6uXU

I actually think the exact opposite. It seems a lot of fans have expectations that are too high, mostly because of the "max contract" label. Hayward will be the fourth best player on the team, behind Irving, Tatum, and then Brown. I fully expect Hayward to be a team contributor, make the right play, and play within the framework of the schemes. But if fans criticize Al Horford for "not being a max guy" then Hayward is going to get the criticism even worse. I see a lot of fans penciling Hayward in for 20ppg next season. They are going to be in for a big surprise. I'm fully expecting him to average about 13, 3, and 3 while playing about 26 minutes a game.

Well, liam, it looks like you were right

[Monkhouse]

Also TS% is my least favorite stat along with per36, (people use this on players that barely average 10 MPG..) It always unfairly rates free throw highly..

That being said, Hayward shot 39.8% 3P, and got to the line 5 times per game. Something that Tatum will eventually get past in 1-2 years, but I'm not convinced that he will score a lot either. Our offense relies on moving and sharing the ball.

I just don't get why you're so sure Hayward won't do so well in our offense.. He literally needs to stand open for shots while Kyrie frees him up lanes to cut.

[KungPoweChicken]

Also TS% is my least favorite stat along with per36, (people use this on players that barely average 10 MPG..) It always unfairly rates free throw highly..

That being said, Hayward shot 39.8% 3P, and got to the line 5 times per game. Something that Tatum will eventually get past in 1-2 years, but I'm not convinced that he will score a lot either. Our offense relies on moving and sharing the ball.

Agree about the ball movement part. However, while Hayward's career 3pt percentage and FT percentage are a very respectable .368 and .82, these are both numbers Tatum eclipsed as a rookie.