Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[CelticSooner]

LeBron really likes these clown coaches he can have influence over doesn’t he?

[Moranis]

I think it is funny that Davis' father complains about the Celtics not being loyal to their players, when his son just asked for a trade from his team halfway through his contract.

I have no idea if Davis was promised things that New Orleans failed to deliver, so I always take trade requests by keeping that sort of thing in mind.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

[PAOBoston]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

[Edited] ... it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

[CelticsElite]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

davis can't decline a trade to boston

[tarheelsxxiii]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

davis can't decline a trade to boston

If he says that he doesn't want to play in Boston and won't resign here - for legitimate reasons - he's not coming to Boston.

[PAOBoston]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

We get it. You have an extreme prejudice against Kyrie and that he is the bane of the Celtics existence. Noted.

[MattyIce]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

lol, thats what they were at the time?

[tarheelsxxiii]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

We get it. You have an extreme prejudice against Kyrie and that he is the bane of the Celtics existence. Noted.

You clearly don't get it.  Despite my (admitted) dislike for Kyrie, my prediction about the effects of the IT trade appear to have been spot-on with regard to both he and Davis.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

lol, thats what they were at the time?

I don't know of any one that thought LeBron wasn't leaving at the end of the season, effectively collapsing the organization.

[MattyIce]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

lol, thats what they were at the time?

I don't know of any one that thought LeBron wasn't leaving at the end of the season, effectively collapsing the organization.

IT had one year on his contract...his one year we sent him to the favorites to be in the finals...no other better situation besides gsw...otherwise you are saying we should have signed him to a huge contract?

[jpotter33]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

We get it. You have an extreme prejudice against Kyrie and that he is the bane of the Celtics existence. Noted.

You clearly don't get it.  Despite my (admitted) dislike for Kyrie, my prediction about the effects of the IT trade appear to have been spot-on with regard to both he and Davis.

More "completely objective" Kyrie commentary by Tar, I see!  And they're only "spot on" if you're gullible enough to buy Rich Paul's propaganda.

But this whole notion that we somehow did IT dirty is just nonsense. Not paying a 5'8" point guard - who is at the end of his prime with a significant hip injury - a max contract and instead sending him to the reigning Eastern Conference champion to play with a top-5 player of all time is somehow doing IT dirty? That logic is just... bizarre, and it's completely warped to fit a specific narrative.

[RodyTur10]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

Please stop with this argument. That's the same like saying that Durant is padding stats on the Warriors, while they don't need him, since they were able to win a championship without him anyway. And Cleveland won a championship with Irving I believe and without him they got swept in the Finals.

[Green-18]

Davis declining a trade to Boston based on our treatment of IT would be a tough pill to swallow.  And unfortunately, there's no consolation prize here - IT was replaced with a flashier IT that scores less, has minimally influenced winning (for us and the Cavs), talks a lot of nonsense, and has stagnated the development of our most important Celtics. 

As much as I enjoy being right, this is a bleak situation. 
 
I feel like I hit a 500' home run with a Wiffle Ball bat; yet, we lost an opportunity to contend for multiple titles with the best player of his respective generation. 

I urge everyone to stick together through this week, and even the summer, in an effort to accept our fate.  I am available by PM from 9:15pm - 9:57pm ET on weekdays and state holidays.


-Tarstradamus

I hate the break this to you but the Cs weren’t going to re-sign IT. They knew he was damaged goods. They traded him for a significantly better player as a result. But he definitely talks a lot of of non sense.

As far as the other garbage you wrote, it is to be determined if the young guys have had their careers stunted. Based off the stats it doesn’t look like it.

Of course they weren't going to resign IT.  But they did run him into the ground, then dump him to armpit of the league.  The Kyrie trade only made sense if the goal was to flip him for a better player, and that only becomes more apparent with time.

Mods please address the bold, and clean up the "idiot" language used to describe the Kyrie malcontents. 

The young guys didn't need him in the playoffs (nor CLE) and they regularly stand around watching him pad his stats.  Nice way to spend prime developmental years.

Please stop with this argument. That's the same like saying that Durant is padding stats on the Warriors, while they don't need him, since they were able to win a championship without him anyway. And Cleveland won a championship with Irving I believe and without him they got swept in the Finals.

He must be trolling with the "everyone stands around and watches Kyrie" argument.  Kyrie ranks 2nd in the NBA in secondary assists, on a team that ranks 3rd in secondary assists.  The Celtics rank 6th in APG and 4th in potential ASP.  All of this is happening while Kyrie's scoring efficiency is at a career high.  On top of that, the Kyrie, Smart, Tatum, Morris, Horford lineup has the 2nd best offensive rating in the entire NBA.

We can also look at individual usage rates.  Tatum is up, Jaylen is about the same (slightly higher), Morris is slightly lower (more efficient), and Horford is identical.  The one major difference is that Smart is MUCH lower.  To no surprise, Marcus is having the most efficient season of his NBA career. 

If anything our ball movement stalls the most when Tatum or Morris has the ball.  This isn't meant to be a knock on either player.  They just aren't particularly talented when it comes to passing/playmaking.