Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[nickagneta]

All right, I have found the solution to our problem of possibly having to move Baynes, Brown, Smart, Horford or Hayward additional to Tatum for salary matching purposed alone. The name of the solution is: D.J. Augustin.

Make the following trade (and I don't see why Orlando wouldn't, since they're basically out of the playoff race):

To Boston: D.J. Augustin
To Orlando: Terry Rozier, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Then you have 7,25 million as perfect salary filler, and with that expiring contract he's a neutral piece for New Orleans.
Also this helps us this season, since Rozier is clearly unable to perform optimally as a bench player and Augustin has shown that he can adapt to any role or team.

Augustin also shoots 44% from three and has an amazing 63 TS% and he's an excellent ball handler. In fact according to advanced stats only Harden, Curry and Irving shoot and pass the ball at the level of Augustin (of course Augustin at a much lower volume).

Something I had forgotten at earlier proposals by me is the rookie salary that's coupled on the draft picks we'd be sending to New Orleans in a trade. I make the assumption in my proposal that the Kings will not make the playoffs and that they therefore land a lottery pick to New Orleans. The Clippers pick will probably not convey this year, which is a real shame since that could help us to exclude Williams from a deal salarywise and valuewise.

Now it's time to present to you the very basic offer for Davis and how it can exactly meet the salary requirements:

To Boston: Anthony Davis (earns $27.09 million next season)

To New Orleans: Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, D.J. Augustin + '19 Sacramento pick, LA Clippers pick, '19 Boston pick, Memphis pick

Required outgoing salary is: 27.09/1,25 = $21.67 million
7.83 (Tatum)+7.25 (Augustin)+1.94 (Williams)+3.10 (Kings #14 or better)+1.71 (Celtics #30 or better) = $21.83 million

New Orleans gets a potential superstar (Tatum), young talent (Williams), rotation player (Augustin), lottery pick ('19 Sac), future lottery pick (Memphis pick), and two first rounders ('19 Boston + Clippers pick).

If that doesn't please the Pelicans, then I don't know what does. The Celtics will be left with Irving, Smart, Brown, Ojeleye, Hayward, Horford, Davis and Baynes. I would advice to at least resign Theis and Wanamaker (if possible).

I believe this to be the best and most realistic deal that I have come up with so far. So tell me why it's not possible, unrealistic or bad 

Bad trade. You are making a trade in the hopes that you can include that player in a possible future trade that may or may not happen or may happen but without said player because New Orleans doesn't want him.

If NOLA would be fine with Augustin, he can always be included in a three way at the time of the trade.

Also, Rozier is going to be kept as Kyrie injury insurance. I don't see him being traded next week.

[Phantom255x]

Tatum, Smart/Brown, Williams/Yabusele ($$$), Kings Pick, Grizzlies Pick, 2 More Future 1sts

VS.

Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Zubac and/or Hart, 1 of KCP/Rondo/Lance ($$$), 2 Future 1sts

I think that's the best offer each team could realistically make. The thing is, while doing this trade could hurt the depth of both teams, it really kills the Lakers more IMHO. Unless you think Carmelo Anthony is actually an answer, they legit have no bench for the rest of the year. Lebron, AD, maybe 2 of Lance/Rondo/KCP, then what? And they'd have to be certain the 3rd star is joining them in the summer or it could backfire.

Also, I just realized, but salary-matching may actually be an issue for the Lakers during the summer since most of their expirings are obviously off the books, and they'd have to look at multiple S&T scenarios I think. They could pull it off but it would require gutting even more of their team.

I think that above paragraph is why there's multiple reports saying it's "all or nothing" for AD NOW, since they may not be in a position to outbid BOS or PHI or another team this summer and they'll focus on just FA's.

The Lakers are reportedly lowballing the Pelicans right now, but if they make that offer I listed above (including BOTH Zubac and Hart instead of 'OR'), then it may not be a slam dunk that we have the best offer. I think it is, but not by as big of a margin. Of course, if LAL continues to lowball a bit though and that's our offer, then yeah we blow them away.

The one advantage LAL has though that other teams (besides NY) don't is that they know AD will extend with them while he'd view others as a rental option. Danny is a risk-taker, but he ain't trading Tatum for a rental. I'd imagine if LAL continues lowballing though, then maybe we can flip Brown, Williams, Smart and Picks to acquire him and take the risk, but that's assuming best case scenario (that LAL doesn't meet the Pelicans "minimum" demand).

[PAOBoston]

Woj

Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.

That’s interesting. I’d figure they would want to go full rebuild but maybe they are looking at short term fix?

They might want some leadership left in place. Jrue is a hard worker and a good citizen.

Yeah I get that but I’d figure they’d do him a solid and try to move him to a situation where he’d be able to at least sniff the playoffs. Dude re-signed there because of AD.

[Roy H.]

Tatum, Smart/Brown, Williams/Yabusele ($$$), Kings Pick, Grizzlies Pick, 2 More Future 1sts

VS.

Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Zubac and/or Hart, 1 of KCP/Rondo/Lance ($$$), 2 Future 1sts

I think that's the best offer each team could realistically make. The thing is, while doing this trade could hurt the depth of both teams, it really kills the Lakers more IMHO. Unless you think Carmelo Anthony is actually an answer, they legit have no bench for the rest of the year. Lebron, AD, maybe 2 of Lance/Rondo/KCP, then what? And they'd have to be certain the 3rd star is joining them in the summer or it could backfire.

Also, I just realized, but salary-matching may actually be an issue for the Lakers during the summer since most of their expirings are obviously off the books, and they'd have to look at multiple S&T scenarios I think. They could pull it off but it would require gutting even more of their team.

I think that above paragraph is why there's multiple reports saying it's "all or nothing" for AD NOW, since they may not be in a position to outbid BOS or PHI or another team this summer and they'll focus on just FA's.

The Lakers are reportedly lowballing the Pelicans right now, but if they make that offer I listed above (including BOTH Zubac and Hart instead of 'OR'), then it may not be a slam dunk that we have the best offer. I think it is, but not by as big of a margin. Of course, if LAL continues to lowball a bit though and that's our offer, then yeah we blow them away.

The one advantage LAL has though that other teams (besides NY) don't is that they know AD will extend with them while he'd view others as a rental option. Danny is a risk-taker, but he ain't trading Tatum for a rental. I'd imagine if LAL continues lowballing though, then maybe we can flip Brown, Williams, Smart and Picks to acquire him and take the risk, but that's assuming best case scenario (that LAL doesn't meet the Pelicans "minimum" demand).

The Lakers can get under the cap enough to absorb Davis’ salary, I believe.

[greg683x]

Lebron out again against the warriors.  They’d most likely lose anyway if he was playing, if not for that I’d start to think the Lakers are gonna try and miss the playoffs so they can have a lottery pick to send to New Orleans

[RodyTur10]

All right, I have found the solution to our problem of possibly having to move Baynes, Brown, Smart, Horford or Hayward additional to Tatum for salary matching purposed alone. The name of the solution is: D.J. Augustin.

Make the following trade (and I don't see why Orlando wouldn't, since they're basically out of the playoff race):

To Boston: D.J. Augustin
To Orlando: Terry Rozier, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Then you have 7,25 million as perfect salary filler, and with that expiring contract he's a neutral piece for New Orleans.
Also this helps us this season, since Rozier is clearly unable to perform optimally as a bench player and Augustin has shown that he can adapt to any role or team.

Augustin also shoots 44% from three and has an amazing 63 TS% and he's an excellent ball handler. In fact according to advanced stats only Harden, Curry and Irving shoot and pass the ball at the level of Augustin (of course Augustin at a much lower volume).

Something I had forgotten at earlier proposals by me is the rookie salary that's coupled on the draft picks we'd be sending to New Orleans in a trade. I make the assumption in my proposal that the Kings will not make the playoffs and that they therefore land a lottery pick to New Orleans. The Clippers pick will probably not convey this year, which is a real shame since that could help us to exclude Williams from a deal salarywise and valuewise.

Now it's time to present to you the very basic offer for Davis and how it can exactly meet the salary requirements:

To Boston: Anthony Davis (earns $27.09 million next season)

To New Orleans: Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, D.J. Augustin + '19 Sacramento pick, LA Clippers pick, '19 Boston pick, Memphis pick

Required outgoing salary is: 27.09/1,25 = $21.67 million
7.83 (Tatum)+7.25 (Augustin)+1.94 (Williams)+3.10 (Kings #14 or better)+1.71 (Celtics #30 or better) = $21.83 million

New Orleans gets a potential superstar (Tatum), young talent (Williams), rotation player (Augustin), lottery pick ('19 Sac), future lottery pick (Memphis pick), and two first rounders ('19 Boston + Clippers pick).

If that doesn't please the Pelicans, then I don't know what does. The Celtics will be left with Irving, Smart, Brown, Ojeleye, Hayward, Horford, Davis and Baynes. I would advice to at least resign Theis and Wanamaker (if possible).

I believe this to be the best and most realistic deal that I have come up with so far. So tell me why it's not possible, unrealistic or bad 

Bad trade. You are making a trade in the hopes that you can include that player in a possible future trade that may or may not happen or may happen but without said player because New Orleans doesn't want him.

Well, of course you talk to New Orleans first. Augustin is a decent player and on a good contract, so not much reason for them to resent it. Maybe you can already get an agreement in place. Boston is allowed to negotiate, they just can't make it official until the summer.

If NOLA would be fine with Augustin, he can always be included in a three way at the time of the trade.

No, see that's the problem! Rozier is expiring and a sign-and-trade straight up for either Augustin (or another similar contract) or in a Davis deal doesn't work, because of the 50% out /100% in rule.

Also, Rozier is going to be kept as Kyrie injury insurance. I don't see him being traded next week.

If Kyrie is injured during the playoffs I don't think we can win a title anyway. And obviously Rozier is much better than Augustin, but Augustin is also useful.

And I certainly don't see Rozier as an insurance for Kyrie this summer. Kyrie is staying for sure, unless something dramatic happens.

[jpotter33]

http://twitter.com/NBATV/status/1091865317574234112

Sounds like some people around the Lakers organization are skeptical that there’s any deal for AD before the deadline.

And I’m glad that more and more people around the NBA are willing to call out the role that Paul and Lebron have with all of these “rumors” that AD won’t play anywhere else. After the PG and Kawhi situations the last couple of summers, I’m glad that this is happening now, as it sets the precedent for teams to take that kind of risk.

[RodyTur10]

Lebron out again against the warriors.  They’d most likely lose anyway if he was playing, if not for that I’d start to think the Lakers are gonna try and miss the playoffs so they can have a lottery pick to send to New Orleans

If the Lakers get a lottery pick then we might have a mid-rounder via the Clippers. So I'm fine with them tanking 

[MattyIce]

All right, I have found the solution to our problem of possibly having to move Baynes, Brown, Smart, Horford or Hayward additional to Tatum for salary matching purposed alone. The name of the solution is: D.J. Augustin.

Make the following trade (and I don't see why Orlando wouldn't, since they're basically out of the playoff race):

To Boston: D.J. Augustin
To Orlando: Terry Rozier, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Then you have 7,25 million as perfect salary filler, and with that expiring contract he's a neutral piece for New Orleans.
Also this helps us this season, since Rozier is clearly unable to perform optimally as a bench player and Augustin has shown that he can adapt to any role or team.

Augustin also shoots 44% from three and has an amazing 63 TS% and he's an excellent ball handler. In fact according to advanced stats only Harden, Curry and Irving shoot and pass the ball at the level of Augustin (of course Augustin at a much lower volume).

Something I had forgotten at earlier proposals by me is the rookie salary that's coupled on the draft picks we'd be sending to New Orleans in a trade. I make the assumption in my proposal that the Kings will not make the playoffs and that they therefore land a lottery pick to New Orleans. The Clippers pick will probably not convey this year, which is a real shame since that could help us to exclude Williams from a deal salarywise and valuewise.

Now it's time to present to you the very basic offer for Davis and how it can exactly meet the salary requirements:

To Boston: Anthony Davis (earns $27.09 million next season)

To New Orleans: Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, D.J. Augustin + '19 Sacramento pick, LA Clippers pick, '19 Boston pick, Memphis pick

Required outgoing salary is: 27.09/1,25 = $21.67 million
7.83 (Tatum)+7.25 (Augustin)+1.94 (Williams)+3.10 (Kings #14 or better)+1.71 (Celtics #30 or better) = $21.83 million

New Orleans gets a potential superstar (Tatum), young talent (Williams), rotation player (Augustin), lottery pick ('19 Sac), future lottery pick (Memphis pick), and two first rounders ('19 Boston + Clippers pick).

If that doesn't please the Pelicans, then I don't know what does. The Celtics will be left with Irving, Smart, Brown, Ojeleye, Hayward, Horford, Davis and Baynes. I would advice to at least resign Theis and Wanamaker (if possible).

I believe this to be the best and most realistic deal that I have come up with so far. So tell me why it's not possible, unrealistic or bad 

Bad trade. You are making a trade in the hopes that you can include that player in a possible future trade that may or may not happen or may happen but without said player because New Orleans doesn't want him.

If NOLA would be fine with Augustin, he can always be included in a three way at the time of the trade.

Also, Rozier is going to be kept as Kyrie injury insurance. I don't see him being traded next week.

although i agree with most especially the kyrie insurance.. the one part i like is that this gives us the ability to not have to include Smart...in a 3 way we wouldn't realistically be able to avoid that because both a)Terry would have to agree to the trade and b)only half of his salary would be in the #'s?

[Roy H.]

All right, I have found the solution to our problem of possibly having to move Baynes, Brown, Smart, Horford or Hayward additional to Tatum for salary matching purposed alone. The name of the solution is: D.J. Augustin.

Make the following trade (and I don't see why Orlando wouldn't, since they're basically out of the playoff race):

To Boston: D.J. Augustin
To Orlando: Terry Rozier, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Then you have 7,25 million as perfect salary filler, and with that expiring contract he's a neutral piece for New Orleans.
Also this helps us this season, since Rozier is clearly unable to perform optimally as a bench player and Augustin has shown that he can adapt to any role or team.

Augustin also shoots 44% from three and has an amazing 63 TS% and he's an excellent ball handler. In fact according to advanced stats only Harden, Curry and Irving shoot and pass the ball at the level of Augustin (of course Augustin at a much lower volume).

Something I had forgotten at earlier proposals by me is the rookie salary that's coupled on the draft picks we'd be sending to New Orleans in a trade. I make the assumption in my proposal that the Kings will not make the playoffs and that they therefore land a lottery pick to New Orleans. The Clippers pick will probably not convey this year, which is a real shame since that could help us to exclude Williams from a deal salarywise and valuewise.

Now it's time to present to you the very basic offer for Davis and how it can exactly meet the salary requirements:

To Boston: Anthony Davis (earns $27.09 million next season)

To New Orleans: Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, D.J. Augustin + '19 Sacramento pick, LA Clippers pick, '19 Boston pick, Memphis pick

Required outgoing salary is: 27.09/1,25 = $21.67 million
7.83 (Tatum)+7.25 (Augustin)+1.94 (Williams)+3.10 (Kings #14 or better)+1.71 (Celtics #30 or better) = $21.83 million

New Orleans gets a potential superstar (Tatum), young talent (Williams), rotation player (Augustin), lottery pick ('19 Sac), future lottery pick (Memphis pick), and two first rounders ('19 Boston + Clippers pick).

If that doesn't please the Pelicans, then I don't know what does. The Celtics will be left with Irving, Smart, Brown, Ojeleye, Hayward, Horford, Davis and Baynes. I would advice to at least resign Theis and Wanamaker (if possible).

I believe this to be the best and most realistic deal that I have come up with so far. So tell me why it's not possible, unrealistic or bad 

Bad trade. You are making a trade in the hopes that you can include that player in a possible future trade that may or may not happen or may happen but without said player because New Orleans doesn't want him.

If NOLA would be fine with Augustin, he can always be included in a three way at the time of the trade.

Also, Rozier is going to be kept as Kyrie injury insurance. I don't see him being traded next week.

although i agree with most especially the kyrie insurance.. the one part i like is that this gives us the ability to not have to include Smart...in a 3 way we wouldn't realistically be able to avoid that because both a)Terry would have to agree to the trade and b)only half of his salary would be in the #'s?

While I don’t mind the trade, there’s an easier way to add salary for next year.

On the final day of the regular season, sign a free agent — let’s say Kendrick Perkins — to a two year MLE deal. It would cost us around $2.6 million or so (whatever the pro-rated amount of the MLE is). For the second season (worth a bit over $5.6 million, I think*), put a guarantee date of August 1.

If we agree to a trade, Perk’s contract gets guaranteed and he’s traded. If not, he’s cut with no further financial commitment.

* I'm actually unsure of this part.  The minimum salary exception works this way (i.e., you get the full amount of the exception in year two).  I assume the MLE does.  If not, we'd still be able to give a 5% raise on the actual salary, leaving us with a salary slot of roughly $2.7 million.

[Phantom255x]

LOL Mark Jackson is such a clown.

They just posted that initial Lakers offer on the ABC telecast and he said the Pelicans should absolutely take it.     

JVG said that’s horrible for NOP and I agree. 2 of those guys are expirings lol not future assets.

[fairweatherfan]

LOL Mark Jackson is such a clown.

They just posted that initial Lakers offer on the ABC telecast and he said the Pelicans should absolutely take it.     

JVG said that’s horrible for NOP and I agree. 2 of those guys are expirings lol not future assets.

Fun facts: Mark Jackson is also a Klutch client and is rumored as one of LeBron's handpicked successors to the coach he hasn't gotten around to firing yet.

[Phantom255x]

LOL Mark Jackson is such a clown.

They just posted that initial Lakers offer on the ABC telecast and he said the Pelicans should absolutely take it.     

JVG said that’s horrible for NOP and I agree. 2 of those guys are expirings lol not future assets.

Fun facts: Mark Jackson is also a Klutch client and is rumored as one of LeBron's handpicked successors to the coach he hasn't gotten around to firing yet.

Of course...

[Chris22]

I think it is funny that Davis' father complains about the Celtics not being loyal to their players, when his son just asked for a trade from his team halfway through his contract.

[Kuberski33]

LOL Mark Jackson is such a clown.

They just posted that initial Lakers offer on the ABC telecast and he said the Pelicans should absolutely take it.     

JVG said that’s horrible for NOP and I agree. 2 of those guys are expirings lol not future assets.

Fun facts: Mark Jackson is also a Klutch client and is rumored as one of LeBron's handpicked successors to the coach he hasn't gotten around to firing yet.

I heard Jackson say that tonight and I thought he was doing it just to get Van Gundy going.  I didn't realize he's a Klutch client...OMG what a tool!  And yes, probably next Laker coach.
 
Conflict of interest much Mark?