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Should the Celtics trade for AD?

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Re: Anthony Davis Speaks to the Media
« Reply #1275 on: February 02, 2019, 04:57:21 PM »

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Thought I’d bump this up.

David in recent interview says he has not made a request to be traded to Lakers, and speculates it’s coming because of his representation situation.

The media seems to have ignored this.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1276 on: February 02, 2019, 05:05:25 PM »

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Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.
I suspect Danny may come out ahead of every one else in acquiring Davis but I suspect it will cost us dearly.
Well, if the bar has been set at Rondo/Beasley and some ok prospects, Danny will eat their lunch lol.

The reality is, there are two important factors that could nail this for the Cs.

First is Gordon Hayward. If this guy gets close to what he was over the next 3 months and playoffs, it will either be useful as a trade chip or the lesser the blow of losing Tatum/Brown etc. Ultimately, if we had the Utah version of Hayward playing right now, I’d assume most people would be willing to drive Tatum to the airport themselves for AD.

Second (and maybe more importantly) is the draft lottery. Sacramento being better than expected made this tough but the lottery is the lottery for a reason. Seeing where the SAC/MEM/LAC picks end up will likely determine the amount/type of prospects that will be given up. Maybe NBA tries to get back at Klutch and the SAC/MEM picks both land in top 10 spots.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1277 on: February 02, 2019, 05:11:41 PM »

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Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.
I suspect Danny may come out ahead of every one else in acquiring Davis but I suspect it will cost us dearly.
Well, if the bar has been set at Rondo/Beasley and some ok prospects, Danny will eat their lunch lol.

The reality is, there are two important factors that could nail this for the Cs.

First is Gordon Hayward. If this guy gets close to what he was over the next 3 months and playoffs, it will either be useful as a trade chip or the lesser the blow of losing Tatum/Brown etc. Ultimately, if we had the Utah version of Hayward playing right now, I’d assume most people would be willing to drive Tatum to the airport themselves for AD.

Second (and maybe more importantly) is the draft lottery. Sacramento being better than expected made this tough but the lottery is the lottery for a reason. Seeing where the SAC/MEM/LAC picks end up will likely determine the amount/type of prospects that will be given up. Maybe NBA tries to get back at Klutch and the SAC/MEM picks both land in top 10 spots.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
No bar has been set. The Lakers threw out a ridiculously low opening offer because there aren't a lot of teams that are going to offer a lot now. Eventually, this summer, the price will get steep.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1278 on: February 02, 2019, 05:14:32 PM »

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Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.
I suspect Danny may come out ahead of every one else in acquiring Davis but I suspect it will cost us dearly.
Well, if the bar has been set at Rondo/Beasley and some ok prospects, Danny will eat their lunch lol.

The reality is, there are two important factors that could nail this for the Cs.

First is Gordon Hayward. If this guy gets close to what he was over the next 3 months and playoffs, it will either be useful as a trade chip or the lesser the blow of losing Tatum/Brown etc. Ultimately, if we had the Utah version of Hayward playing right now, I’d assume most people would be willing to drive Tatum to the airport themselves for AD.

Second (and maybe more importantly) is the draft lottery. Sacramento being better than expected made this tough but the lottery is the lottery for a reason. Seeing where the SAC/MEM/LAC picks end up will likely determine the amount/type of prospects that will be given up. Maybe NBA tries to get back at Klutch and the SAC/MEM picks both land in top 10 spots.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
No bar has been set. The Lakers threw out a ridiculously low opening offer because there aren't a lot of teams that are going to offer a lot now. Eventually, this summer, the price will get steep.
The Cs will have enough ammo either way. The question is how much ammo can they add to soften any sort of blow by then.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1279 on: February 02, 2019, 05:23:32 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1280 on: February 02, 2019, 05:28:55 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.

Good. Conley might be best PG available then

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1281 on: February 02, 2019, 05:33:11 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.
That’s interesting. I’d figure they would want to go full rebuild but maybe they are looking at short term fix?

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1282 on: February 02, 2019, 05:39:37 PM »

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Assuming AD doesn’t get traded by next weekend, I think it’s going to be hilarious in the summer when Ainge ends up trading a bag of balls and a box of Scary Terry merchandise to pelicans to get AD to Boston.
I suspect Danny may come out ahead of every one else in acquiring Davis but I suspect it will cost us dearly.
Well, if the bar has been set at Rondo/Beasley and some ok prospects, Danny will eat their lunch lol.

The reality is, there are two important factors that could nail this for the Cs.

First is Gordon Hayward. If this guy gets close to what he was over the next 3 months and playoffs, it will either be useful as a trade chip or the lesser the blow of losing Tatum/Brown etc. Ultimately, if we had the Utah version of Hayward playing right now, I’d assume most people would be willing to drive Tatum to the airport themselves for AD.

Second (and maybe more importantly) is the draft lottery. Sacramento being better than expected made this tough but the lottery is the lottery for a reason. Seeing where the SAC/MEM/LAC picks end up will likely determine the amount/type of prospects that will be given up. Maybe NBA tries to get back at Klutch and the SAC/MEM picks both land in top 10 spots.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
No bar has been set. The Lakers threw out a ridiculously low opening offer because there aren't a lot of teams that are going to offer a lot now. Eventually, this summer, the price will get steep.

The offer from LA should improve before deadline, why would they wait to increase in summer?

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1283 on: February 02, 2019, 05:41:21 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.
That’s interesting. I’d figure they would want to go full rebuild but maybe they are looking at short term fix?

They might want some leadership left in place. Jrue is a hard worker and a good citizen.


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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1284 on: February 02, 2019, 05:51:38 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.
That’s interesting. I’d figure they would want to go full rebuild but maybe they are looking at short term fix?

If that’s true that they looking for a short term fix then maybe Horford and spare parts/picks is more useful to them in a trade.  Horford is playing awesome right now, but who knows in a year or 2 what he will look like.  Plus postionally Davis replaces Horford, but that whole opt out option in his contract makes it real dicey to get that to work.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1285 on: February 02, 2019, 06:48:01 PM »

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The league looks into tampering for teams/owners....I think they need to start looking into it for agents.

clearly this agent is pushing this lakers/anti-boston narrative because his other client is Lebron James. Also wouldnt be the first time LA was caught tampering with players.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1286 on: February 02, 2019, 06:55:58 PM »

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Amid the Anthony Davis talks, teams calling on New Orleans' next best player -- guard Jrue Holiday -- tell ESPN that the Pels are indicating no interest in moving him. Beyond this season, Holiday has three years, $77M left on deal through 2022.
That’s interesting. I’d figure they would want to go full rebuild but maybe they are looking at short term fix?

Well, if they are looking at guys like Tatum and Smart - they aren’t exactly rookies. I mean, they will also acquire quality draft picks (including their own this year), but they could actually put together a pretty good team with younger players from our team.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1287 on: February 02, 2019, 07:17:19 PM »

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The league looks into tampering for teams/owners....I think they need to start looking into it for agents.

clearly this agent is pushing this lakers/anti-boston narrative because his other client is Lebron James. Also wouldnt be the first time LA was caught tampering with players.

I think this is more of an Anthony Davis situation. He needs to sort his agent out if his agent is doing things that he doesn't want him to do. He needs to fire him and say why publicly - that his agent is working against his wishes in order to help someone else (LeBron). That will wreck his agent's career.

It's in AD's hands. Either his agent is doing what AD wants him to do or he is not. His action or inaction will tell the truth.

It is not for the league to intervene. It is for AD to do so.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1288 on: February 02, 2019, 07:17:56 PM »

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The league looks into tampering for teams/owners....I think they need to start looking into it for agents.

clearly this agent is pushing this lakers/anti-boston narrative because his other client is Lebron James. Also wouldnt be the first time LA was caught tampering with players.
Given that Davis is now coming out and saying he never gave Rich Paul permission to go public with his trade demand and never had his agent request a certain destination. If he never gave Paul permission to do those things, why did Paul do it? Did Paul do it on his own or was he told to do it by someone else?

If Davis never told his agent to do the things he has done, as he claims(I don't buy it, but....) then he is being misrepresented and Paul should be investigated. For tampering and maybe, legal misrepresentation.

Probably stretching things with legal misrepresentation but I think this whole situation should make the owners want to have a future change in the CBA to include agents as being able to tamper.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread (Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #1289 on: February 02, 2019, 07:28:17 PM »

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All right, I have found the solution to our problem of possibly having to move Baynes, Brown, Smart, Horford or Hayward additional to Tatum for salary matching purposed alone. The name of the solution is: D.J. Augustin.

Make the following trade (and I don't see why Orlando wouldn't, since they're basically out of the playoff race):

To Boston: D.J. Augustin
To Orlando: Terry Rozier, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird

Then you have 7,25 million as perfect salary filler, and with that expiring contract he's a neutral piece for New Orleans.
Also this helps us this season, since Rozier is clearly unable to perform optimally as a bench player and Augustin has shown that he can adapt to any role or team.

Augustin also shoots 44% from three and has an amazing 63 TS% and he's an excellent ball handler. In fact according to advanced stats only Harden, Curry and Irving shoot and pass the ball at the level of Augustin (of course Augustin at a much lower volume).

Something I had forgotten at earlier proposals by me is the rookie salary that's coupled on the draft picks we'd be sending to New Orleans in a trade. I make the assumption in my proposal that the Kings will not make the playoffs and that they therefore land a lottery pick to New Orleans. The Clippers pick will probably not convey this year, which is a real shame since that could help us to exclude Williams from a deal salarywise and valuewise.

Now it's time to present to you the very basic offer for Davis and how it can exactly meet the salary requirements:

To Boston: Anthony Davis (earns $27.09 million next season)

To New Orleans: Jayson Tatum, Robert Williams, D.J. Augustin + '19 Sacramento pick, LA Clippers pick, '19 Boston pick, Memphis pick

Required outgoing salary is: 27.09/1,25 = $21.67 million
7.83 (Tatum)+7.25 (Augustin)+1.94 (Williams)+3.10 (Kings #14 or better)+1.71 (Celtics #30 or better) = $21.83 million

New Orleans gets a potential superstar (Tatum), young talent (Williams), rotation player (Augustin), lottery pick ('19 Sac), future lottery pick (Memphis pick), and two first rounders ('19 Boston + Clippers pick).

If that doesn't please the Pelicans, then I don't know what does. The Celtics will be left with Irving, Smart, Brown, Ojeleye, Hayward, Horford, Davis and Baynes. I would advice to at least resign Theis and Wanamaker (if possible).

I believe this to be the best and most realistic deal that I have come up with so far. So tell me why it's not possible, unrealistic or bad  ;)