Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Chief Macho]

Crazy talk,  if Philly offers Simmons and a sweeteners NO probably jumps on that offer.    He can be the face of the franchise they desperately will need.   I'd take Simmons or Tatum,  but if Philly offers first,  why wait to let them reassess or balk in the summer.   

[CF033]

Crazy talk,  if Philly offers Simmons and a sweeteners NO probably jumps on that offer.    He can be the face of the franchise they desperately will need.   I'd take Simmons or Tatum,  but if Philly offers first,  why wait to let them reassess or balk in the summer.

Can Embiid play with AD? His ego might take issue with being second best on that team. I can't see that chemistry working.

[apc]

Ingram, Kuzma, Ball, Zubak, and two unprotected picks as suggested by Nick Wright on twitter,   that probably does get it done.   I could see the Pelicans doing that deal if the Lakers really decide to go get AD and are willing to give up the farm.  Sucks for us.

Except Tatum is far and away the best prospect out of all of these players, and in the NBA quality, not quantity, rules the day.

Unless Danny has categorically taken Tatum off the table, which is highly, highly unlikely, then New Orleans is likely to wait and gauge Boston's trade package in the summer.

They probably should and will,  but everybody acting like a big offer from a team before the deadline won't be enticing because of the Celtics is more wishful thinking then it is absolute.    New Orleans can get tempted with a good offer.

Sure, and they can always make a shortsighted/poor decision.

But logically speaking, this is a no-brainer to wait for the summer.

Philly offers Simmons,  is it logical to wait for Philly to change their minds?  I would say trade AD today for that.

I don't think Simmons' value is as high as people think, i.e. higher than someone like Tatum. In today's NBA, not being even a threat to shoot the ball is a significant weakness that really hampers one's ceiling and effectiveness.

I'd venture to say that most NBA GMs would take Tatum over Simmons to build a team around, especially given that he's nearly two years younger and does not have any kind of major hole in his game like Simmons.

As the only star on a team, I think Tatum as higher value.
Simmons needs other stars to finish his plays to make him look good. 

[RJ87]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

[Chief Macho]

Crazy talk,  if Philly offers Simmons and a sweeteners NO probably jumps on that offer.    He can be the face of the franchise they desperately will need.   I'd take Simmons or Tatum,  but if Philly offers first,  why wait to let them reassess or balk in the summer.

Can Embiid play with AD? His ego might take issue with being second best on that team. I can't see that chemistry working.

No idea actually.  My point really was just that this idea that they won't do a deal before the deadline because of the Celtics is just wrong no matter what the twitterverse says.   There are going to be some really enticing offers for AD the next week.

[hpantazo]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

Toronto is reportedly after AD as well

[Tr1boy]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

yup

BUT I doubt then a trade will happen..... so in the end , it is nothing

Zion is an exceptional talent.  Not quite at Lebron or Davis level but a notch below.   Is already a man child.  I think the knicks would trade any other picks except Zion.  But then the Pelicans would want no other pick

And plus why would Davis want to join a even more terrible team that is the Knicks??

Unless he thinks he can entice Butler and Irving to join him ....

[Who]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

If they did get the #1 pick, that would give NYK the single most valuable trade asset on the board.

Plus, they could probably keep enough cap space to go after Durant, Kemba Walker or Jimmy Butler. A Big 3 of AD, Porzingis and one of those three. That should be enough to convince AD to sign an extension.

[nickagneta]

Not making this political but does anyone else see the correlation of Donald Trump/Michael Cohen to LeBron James/Rich Paul?

Paul doing this 10 days before the trade deadline, a deadline LeBron knows the Celtics can't compete for Davis during, sure seems like something Trump would tell Cohen to take care of.

This announcement is nothing more than Paul doing everything he can to get his client to LA to play with the guy he is pretty much the cleaner/fixer for.

[RJ87]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

If they did get the #1 pick, that would give NYK the single most valuable trade asset on the board.

Plus, they could probably keep enough cap space to go after Durant, Kemba Walker or Jimmy Butler. A Big 3 of AD, Porzingis and one of those three. That should be enough to convince AD to sign an extension.

I also think Kyrie could go to the Knicks in that scenario, as much as I hate to say it.

[apc]

Saw this at the Lakers blog

Pelicans reportedly asking Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, first-round pick in Anthony Davis trade

Does it even make sense that pels already telling Lakers what they want sound like BS to me.

[RJ87]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

yup

BUT I doubt then a trade will happen..... so in the end , it is nothing

Zion is an exceptional talent.  Not quite at Lebron or Davis level but a notch below.   Is already a man child.  I think the knicks would trade any other picks except Zion.  But then the Pelicans would want no other pick

And plus why would Davis want to join a even more terrible team that is the Knicks??

Unless he thinks he can entice Butler and Irving to join him ....

As much as I like Zion, I'd trade him for Davis and not look back. You give up the maybe-All Star for an actual All Star every time.

[hpantazo]

Woj is also reporting that the Knicks will be very aggressive in trading for AD. They could very well get the #1 pick (Zion). Another reason for NO to wait.

If they did get the #1 pick, that would give NYK the single most valuable trade asset on the board.

Plus, they could probably keep enough cap space to go after Durant, Kemba Walker or Jimmy Butler. A Big 3 of AD, Porzingis and one of those three. That should be enough to convince AD to sign an extension.

I also think Kyrie could go to the Knicks in that scenario, as much as I hate to say it.

Kyrie already committed to the Celtics before the season started though. Sure legally he could leave, but for all intents and purposes he committed long term to Boston

[hpantazo]

Saw this at the Lakers blog

Pelicans reportedly asking Lakers for Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, first-round pick in Anthony Davis trade

Does it even make sense that pels already telling Lakers what they want sound like BS to me.

That’s Lakers fan fiction. Pelicans would certainly ask for Ingram along with everything else

[Tr1boy]

Pelicans situation is this imo

1.  trade Davis now for Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, 2018 1st..... BUT still remain a nobody team.  Only at the cusp of making the playoffs

2.   Shut down Davis, trade Holiday, Moore etc.  and tank for Zion.   Trade Davis in the offseason to the highest bidder

3.  But at this point will Lakers pull their original deal?  since Davis has only one year left and they can sign him as a FA

4.  Will Danny Ainge and Celtics WANT to include Lakers comparable trade assets Tatum, Brown, Rozier with Davis having one year left on his opt out contract with no commitment to resign??   (its like the Leonard situation all over again)

5.  The Knicks don't win the draft lottery... so not really a prospective trade partner

6.  Celtics win the championship.  Durant or Curry becomes injured in the playoffs ....who knows. But if this happens and Danny at this point does not plan to trade for Davis any longer


If I'am the Pelicans I'm not waiting until the offseason.  Especially with a chance the Lakers pull out, plus Celtics downgrade their offer due to AD non commitment to want to stay there long term. 

Get the best offer you can get now.  Trade Holiday, Moore for picks.   Do whatever possible to tank for a top 5 pick in hopes to notch Zion. 

Unless the Lakers are going to go cheap  (only offer Ingram, Ball as main pieces but no Kuzma)...  I doubt the Celts will be able to get Davis in the offseason