Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[GreenEnvy]

Ever heard of salary cap rules?  Davis makes 25m.

You'd have to move a big salary, that means one of our 'big 3' has to go out in the trade, either Hayward, Kyrie, or Horford.

Besides I'm not moving Tatum in that trade.  No chance.

Actually, the trade would be legal from a salary cap standpoint. Due to the CBA, it's illegal due to Kyrie and Davis having the same type of contract, and therefore can’t be teammates while on said contracts.

That said, this is an awful deal for the C’s, and one no other team would come remotely close to. Tatum and Brown are both #3 picks still on rookie deals, and two of those picks are projected lottery as well. Four lotto picks is a pretty huge package. Add in Morris (another former lottery pick) and Rozier, along with TWO more firsts, makes this ludicrous.

I would actually consider trading Brown AND Tatum for Davis next summer though, as crazy as it sounds. Depends what happens with our picks. If we can get a stud, I’d do it. Then use MLE on a SG and resign Morris.

[Phantom255x]

Tatum AND Brown + 4 Picks?!?!?!?! (And Smart since you'd have to match salaries) 

Hell no.

Actually you couldn't do this trade anyways w/o Kyrie included (Rose Rule). And if you're talking about this summer, then Morris and Rozier are both FA's so you'd have to factor S&T into this.

[RodyTur10]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore

To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

[perks-a-beast]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore
To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '18 Sacramento 1st, '18 Memphis 1st, '18 Clippers 1st and '20 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

NOP won’t take anything less than Tatum, Smart, SAC pick. I’d probably do it but would have to stop myself from throwing up every time I see Jayson put up 20/10 on his way to the hall of fame. Just hate to give a guy like that up.

[RodyTur10]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore
To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

NOP won’t take anything less than Tatum, Smart, SAC pick. I’d probably do it but would have to stop myself from throwing up every time I see Jayson put up 20/10 on his way to the hall of fame. Just hate to give a guy like that up.

Is Tatum worth more than Brown + three 1st rounders?

It would be such a shame to trade our best cost controlled player, while keeping a bunch of draft picks that are worth more in the hands of a rebuilding team.

[td450]

I would want to know what we have in Robert Williams first. If he passes a certain threshold and becomes the defensive and rebounding monster we see hints of, and becomes a reasonable fit as an offensive role player, I say we pass and roll with what we got. Its an unorthodox championship roster because it lacks an MVP level player, but it could become overwhelming over time.

[mef730]

Just don't do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyhXlPCI4Q

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

ESPN said that we could include 2019 draft picks in a trade for Davis. Given how early the draft is, how would that work? We come to an agreement before the draft but after the end of the season, make the trade and then hope that Kyrie re-signs? Does Kyrie's contract end the last day of the season, or sometime during the summer.

Thanks,
Mike

[PhoSita]

The only assets I wouldn't offer would be Tatum, Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Horford.

They can have whatever else they want.


If there ever are Anthony Davis trade negotiations, I assume the starting point would be Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams, and every pick in the treasure chest.

[Jvalin]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore

To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

Pending free agents (=Morris, Rozier) cannot be traded on draft night. Assuming we trade for AD on draft night, we have to match his salary based on our 2019-2020 payroll.

Cannot complete the trade prior to the trade deadline either because of the Rose rule.

Once Kyrie re-signs this summer, the Rose rule problem is gone , right?

Yes.

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1066122676148813824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[hpantazo]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore

To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

Pending free agents (=Morris, Rozier) cannot be traded on draft night. Assuming we trade for AD on draft night, we have to match his salary based on our 2019-2020 payroll.

Cannot complete the trade prior to the trade deadline either because of the Rose rule.

Once Kyrie re-signs this summer, the Rose rule problem is gone , right?

[SHAQATTACK]

love to see

Smart
Davis
Tatum
Ivring   
New draft pick

Mook Bench
Williams  Bench


Trade off Horford, Hayward , Brown and Rozier

[Monkhouse]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore

To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

That is a lot of assets to trade... I'd rather cut off like 3-4 assets instead of acquiring Holiday/Moore.

[jambr380]

The only assets I wouldn't offer would be Tatum, Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Horford.

They can have whatever else they want.


If there ever are Anthony Davis trade negotiations, I assume the starting point would be Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams, and every pick in the treasure chest.

Then I don't think we are getting AD. I agree that I would rather give up Brown and all of our picks, but other teams will be bidding against us. Our Ace in the hole is Tatum and that is what I think it will really come down to - if Danny will give up Tatum for AD.

Also, I am not sure why you have Hayward on your 'no' list. If NOP inexplicably wants him then he is a goner. Not only is he killer salary filler, but we are going to need to pay a lot of guys in the next couple of years. I can't imagine Hayward hangs on for another [big] contract in Boston after this one. I would also gladly give up Horford if picks up his option. This is AD we are talking about!

[BitterJim]

It's difficult that the NBA draft is before the free agency market. We would really like to know what the numbers are for possibly re-signing Rozier, Wanamaker, Morris and Theis (or renegotiate with Horford).

And a sign-and-trade with Rozier is just not possible then as the Celtics would likely want to make a trade for Davis at draft night. This to make sure that New Orleans can choose their obtained draft picks themselves. For this reason the Celtics need a big 'filler' for salary matching purposes and things get complicated. It makes a lot more sense to trade Horford than for instance Smart to keep a balanced roster.

Huge trade proposal:

To Boston: Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday and E'twaun Moore

To New Orleans: Al Horford, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Robert Williams, Guerschon Yabusele, Jabari Bird, '19 Sacramento 1st, '19 Memphis 1st, '19 Clippers 1st and '21 Boston 1st.

After that resign Theis, new rotation looks like:

PG: Kyrie Irving, Marcus Smart
SG: Jrue Holiday, E'twaun Moore
SF: Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward
PF: Anthony Davis, Semi Ojeleye
C: Aron Baynes, Daniel Theis

Pending free agents (=Morris, Rozier) cannot be traded on draft night. Assuming we trade for AD on draft night, we have to match his salary based on our 2019-2020 payroll.

Cannot complete the trade prior to the trade deadline either because of the Rose rule.

Once Kyrie re-signs this summer, the Rose rule problem is gone , right?

Yes.

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1066122676148813824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

You can, however, agree in principle to the trade on draft night and wait until you can re-sign them to actually make the deal

[the_gunner]

I'm a really big fan of AD, so I would give up a lot for him.

I think my max. would be:

Kyrie
Morris
Baynes
+ a low first round pick

But did you just say that you want to trade Kyrie?

Yes I think, that if we can get AD, then I would be willing to give up Kyrie. Kyrie is a fantastic player - I just see AD as a more complete player, and besides that I'm still not sure Kyrie would re-sign with us.

A starting lineup with Rozier, Tatum, Hayward, Horford and Davis would be fantastic, but I admit we would need some more depth on the guard positions.