Marcus Smart RFA [Merged - finalizing 4 year deal]

[Chris22]

In today's NBA it's all about the 3.

[greenrunsdeep41]

If Smart is expecting LaVine money, then this is a best case for the Cs. They totally avoid the tax this year (with room to spare), can keep Bird, sign another vet min guy, get to field a championship caliber team with all of its ‘parts’, and can let the market dictate who to keep between him and Rozier next offseason (or both if Kyrie leaves - Yikes!).

Of course I would love to sign Smart at $8M/yr over 4 years, but that doesn’t look like a possibility and I am okay with that. Our depth next year will be insane!

TP, I am hoping we retain him on the QO then let the PG position shake out next offseason. I have the feeling it will be 2/3 with Kyrie being one of those two.

Although, I could see a future where Rozier improves enough to be our starter. He will clearly never be Kyrie, but maybe he doesn't have to be. "IF" Smart could improve his consistency from the outside/be slightly better finishing near the rim ( I know, huge if, at this point) then I could see us being a team that could withstand the loss of Kyrie.

I say this with adoration and respect for KI's game and basketball muscles.

[Roy H.]

The Celtics only have about $8M under the tax cap and the other teams know this.  I doubt they go into the tax to sign Smart.  A team can offer $9M and the Celtics probably won't match.

They've got around $8.44 million.  If they waive and stretch Nader (which they should regardless), they're up to $9.76 million.

That means they could sign Smart to approximately 4 years, $43,680,000 without hitting the tax.

(I don't believe that two-way contracts count against the tax; if they do, a slightly lower number would have to be negotiated).

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=907901305b40c878b8146518189575

[timpiker]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

[Roy H.]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

In fairness, the offer has reportedly gone down this off-season, but yeah, there's no reason for acrimony.  Either you take that deal -- which is in line with the market -- or you just decide to play for the QO.  Business is business.

[More Banners]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

Pretty sure someday he's going to regret turning down $44M, if that is indeed the case.

He could just as easily never make half of that in his lifetime.

[Rakulp]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

Smart is valuable on defense...and if he were consistent with his offense, would be worth more.  But I believe that offer is fair value for him, so if he turns it down and "bets on himself", then I almost hope he ends up as Noels.

How much is enough nowadays...sheesh.

[kmart12]

In today's NBA it's all about the 3.

As much as I love Smart and hope he stays with us, I have been thinking about this point a lot lately. The game has evolved to where shooting is now a necessity in guards; even a player like Rondo, who has essentially no outside shot, can finish around the rim and convert within the 3 point line. Smart's overall shooting is a liability and something that I hope he understands can't be made up for with defense and intensity. I love his playmaking ability, and can even forgive his turnover rate, but his shooting needs to improve for him to truly develop into a caliber worthy on 30 mpg on a championship team.

[Hawkeye199]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

Link?

[dreamgreen]

Bulpett's article this morning says the C's offered Smart more than $11M per for 4 years and it was turned down.  So, the crying/whining from Smart is bull.

In fairness, the offer has reportedly gone down this off-season, but yeah, there's no reason for acrimony.  Either you take that deal -- which is in line with the market -- or you just decide to play for the QO.  Business is business.

I'd say that's more than fair heading towards generous. He's a fool if he turned that down. I know he thinks next year he can make the money but you never know that. If he had a horrible injury, shoots just as bad or god forbid worse, get less PT because of the roster. Take the $ now work on your game and still have next time to earn more if you proved yourself.

[cman88]

teams just arent willing to pay 15-17 million on a player who cant shoot...its as simple as that..smart seems to be hoping that if no one gives him that this summer they will next.

[Roy H.]

If you're Danny, as a sign of good will would you offer Marcus something like a 1 year $8 million deal, with a second year player option?

There's no real necessity to do something like that, but it's a sign of good will in hopes of keeping Smart happy (while still staying below the tax line).  It's essentially a gift of $2 million to ensure that Smart doesn't sign a higher tender with another team.

[Chris22]

If you're Danny, as a sign of good will would you offer Marcus something like a 1 year $8 million deal, with a second year player option?

There's no real necessity to do something like that, but it's a sign of good will in hopes of keeping Smart happy (while still staying below the tax line).  It's essentially a gift of $2 million to ensure that Smart doesn't sign a higher tender with another team.

$6 million a year is not enough good will?

[Roy H.]

If you're Danny, as a sign of good will would you offer Marcus something like a 1 year $8 million deal, with a second year player option?

There's no real necessity to do something like that, but it's a sign of good will in hopes of keeping Smart happy (while still staying below the tax line).  It's essentially a gift of $2 million to ensure that Smart doesn't sign a higher tender with another team.

$6 million a year is not enough good will?

Where's the "good will" in offering the minimum qualifying offer?   The restricted free agency process is causing some friction with a good player.  Giving more than necessary can help heal hurt feelings.

If you're sacrificing $2 million for guaranteeing the player comes back (and comes back a little happier) it might be worth considering.

[greenrunsdeep41]

If you're Danny, as a sign of good will would you offer Marcus something like a 1 year $8 million deal, with a second year player option?

There's no real necessity to do something like that, but it's a sign of good will in hopes of keeping Smart happy (while still staying below the tax line).  It's essentially a gift of $2 million to ensure that Smart doesn't sign a higher tender with another team.

Yea, I am hoping for this type of offer. A two year, prove it deal would be best case for the team.