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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2018, 09:42:18 AM »

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Danny always has the draft and stash option on an international prospect if there is nobody who can help right away. 

In terms of positional need, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny tries to find a physical big man.  There's a strong possibility that we won't be able to retain Baynes after this season.  It would be nice to find a backup option to replace those 15-20 minutes of physicality.

Admittedly I'm not the biggest college basketball follower anymore but I'd be interested to hear what people think of Brandon McCoy from UNLV.  7-0, 255 with excellent length.  Below is a brief description from NBAdraft.net that stands out.

"Good motor. Runs the floor well. Gets back on defense every play … Good rebounder. Crashes offensive glass … Good shot blocker, has potential as a reliable rim protector … Tries to use his size advantage at all times, backing down smaller players at every opportunity … Communicates with teammates. Can play on either end of a high/low with another big … Has shown great strides in his overall development over the last two years of high school, especially his awareness and coordination … ".

These are all qualities that would mesh well with Brad Stevens coaching style.
He also killed Ayton's team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fz9r24l44Y&t=69s

But yeah, I would love McCoy

Based on the video above I am pretty sure McCoy will be available at that pick because he looks rather pedestrian to me. He can't finish in traffic, prone to turnovers, panics in double teams but he can dunk when alone and he hits free throws pretty well.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2018, 09:48:12 AM »

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Danny always has the draft and stash option on an international prospect if there is nobody who can help right away. 

In terms of positional need, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny tries to find a physical big man.  There's a strong possibility that we won't be able to retain Baynes after this season.  It would be nice to find a backup option to replace those 15-20 minutes of physicality.

Admittedly I'm not the biggest college basketball follower anymore but I'd be interested to hear what people think of Brandon McCoy from UNLV.  7-0, 255 with excellent length.  Below is a brief description from NBAdraft.net that stands out.

"Good motor. Runs the floor well. Gets back on defense every play … Good rebounder. Crashes offensive glass … Good shot blocker, has potential as a reliable rim protector … Tries to use his size advantage at all times, backing down smaller players at every opportunity … Communicates with teammates. Can play on either end of a high/low with another big … Has shown great strides in his overall development over the last two years of high school, especially his awareness and coordination … ".

These are all qualities that would mesh well with Brad Stevens coaching style.
He also killed Ayton's team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fz9r24l44Y&t=69s

But yeah, I would love McCoy

Based on the video above I am pretty sure McCoy will be available at that pick because he looks rather pedestrian to me. He can't finish in traffic, prone to turnovers, panics in double teams but he can dunk when alone and he hits free throws pretty well.
It didn't really show his defensive presence at all, and he grabbed 15+ boards 5 times. Really good rebounder. If we're picking a guy to potentially replace Baynes as a banging 7 footer, he's a good choice. Maybe he extends his range like Baynes too ;D
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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2018, 09:53:00 AM »

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We have so many young players the odds of finding a hidden gem are remote .
Next year Hayward ,Kyrie and Theis will come back after committed rehabs.
Kyrie says he only scratched the surface and Theis has shown the length and defensive versatility in only his first season in NBA.
Baynes given green light to shoot threes and he is showing potential.
What can we find in draft at 27-



you draft because you can always upgrade somewhere. even if it is 4th man down the bench behind morris, smart and rozier.  that guy could be better than yabu and semi and nader and larkin. So you draft unless DA wants to use in a trade to upgrade a spot. 
LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2018, 10:00:38 AM »

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I'd hope that we DO stay ready to draft...

When I ran that Lotto thingy on ESPN we got the 2nd and 3rd spots twice (out of about 50 tries ;D)

We picked Jaren Jackson Jr and Luka with those picks.

Never say never.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2018, 10:13:42 AM »

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Joining the chorus above, occasionally a decent to good player does appear. And Danny is above average a picking in the late first round.

For examples... Perkins, gobert,and others were at 27.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/27th-overall/270509/

Besides, one of the keys for the Celtics future is to acquire cheap vets and youngsters who play on rookie contracts....for payroll purposes.
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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2018, 10:32:29 AM »

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Danny always has the draft and stash option on an international prospect if there is nobody who can help right away. 

In terms of positional need, I wouldn't be surprised if Danny tries to find a physical big man.  There's a strong possibility that we won't be able to retain Baynes after this season.  It would be nice to find a backup option to replace those 15-20 minutes of physicality.

Admittedly I'm not the biggest college basketball follower anymore but I'd be interested to hear what people think of Brandon McCoy from UNLV.  7-0, 255 with excellent length.  Below is a brief description from NBAdraft.net that stands out.

"Good motor. Runs the floor well. Gets back on defense every play … Good rebounder. Crashes offensive glass … Good shot blocker, has potential as a reliable rim protector … Tries to use his size advantage at all times, backing down smaller players at every opportunity … Communicates with teammates. Can play on either end of a high/low with another big … Has shown great strides in his overall development over the last two years of high school, especially his awareness and coordination … ".

These are all qualities that would mesh well with Brad Stevens coaching style.
He also killed Ayton's team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fz9r24l44Y&t=69s

But yeah, I would love McCoy

Based on the video above I am pretty sure McCoy will be available at that pick because he looks rather pedestrian to me. He can't finish in traffic, prone to turnovers, panics in double teams but he can dunk when alone and he hits free throws pretty well.
Ha, he sounds a bit like Perkins when he entered the draft.

Basically, I trust Danny on these choices. I believe he will trade the pick if he thinks he can get something better for it.
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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2018, 11:25:28 AM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him


Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2018, 12:22:10 PM »

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We will get a solid player or a high risk/reward type pick. We definitely need our pick this year, whether we keep it or trade it, with or without another player, for someone.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2018, 12:25:09 PM »

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I don't think Rollie is saying never draft in the 27 range. Just that this year it could be a positive to not add a guaranteed rookie contract. It's not a bad thought considering we will be near the tax line and we will still have half the roster on rookie scale contracts.
If there is a guy who can contribute straight away then let's consider them. However knowing that we may lose Baynes and Monroe in the summer it may be prudent to keep spots open for veteran big men who in theory help us much more than a rookie.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2018, 12:44:47 PM »

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Really, this summer the only thing danny needs to focus on this summer is retaining our own players. try and resign Marcus smart to a reasonable deal as well as Aaron baynes. Both defensively have been huge for us this year.

There was an NBA analyist from Yahoo on toucher and rich the other day who speculated that even if next year is his last year on his deal, Danny may not trade Rozier (unless it is for a marcus morris type deal/player). because if you even bring back just this same squad you are looking at championship aspirations with a very talented and DEEP group that can go up against anyone.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2018, 02:37:10 PM »

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I don't think Rollie is saying never draft in the 27 range. Just that this year it could be a positive to not add a guaranteed rookie contract. It's not a bad thought considering we will be near the tax line and we will still have half the roster on rookie scale contracts.
If there is a guy who can contribute straight away then let's consider them. However knowing that we may lose Baynes and Monroe in the summer it may be prudent to keep spots open for veteran big men who in theory help us much more than a rookie.

Thank you-it was just a thought so we wouldn't draft and pay for a player that has to go to the Red Claws .And i did only mention a swap if it was for a different year.Not more 2nds.
Theis and Larkin are walking adds for euros.
Theis coming back is a versatile ,long defender for small ball.
Without Draftexpress its like flying blind
 We are in the Playoffs and Rozier,Marcus and Morris are big parts so i thought any discussion of draft and sticking as close to pat was not disrespectful


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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2018, 04:09:35 PM »

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Larkin - May bolt to at least become a backup PG on another team.

Monroe - Is likely gone too. Unless he's willing to sign for the minimum, which won't happen.

Nader - He'll get cut. He sucks and might find himself out of the league entirely.

Smart - Is a free agent, so him coming back will be dependent on how much another team pays vs what we think he's worth.

Baynes - Another FA. Him now shooting 3's only increases his value. How much will be command will be very interesting.


Assuming Bird makes the team, which he looks like he had some potential in his brief stints, we would still have 4 roster spots open. So why is drafting a player in the late first round an issue?

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2018, 04:26:25 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.

you draft because you can always upgrade somewhere. even if it is 4th man down the bench behind morris, smart and rozier.  that guy could be better than yabu and semi and nader and larkin. So you draft unless DA wants to use in a trade to upgrade a spot.

Agreed, not to mention the fact that as we've seen in particular, this year, you never know what will happen insofar as injuries are concerned, and without our bevy of young guys, we would never have even gotten close to this point, imo, so always get as much talent as you can, starting with the draft.

Admittedly, I haven't really paid attention to college basketball this year, but if he stays in the draft and we get incredibly lucky, Charles Matthews would be an excellent choice at 27, imo, but should he opt to return to school, Rawle Alkins would be my pick at 27.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2018, 04:34:34 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2018, 04:35:13 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?
he quoted rap lyrics on twitter when he was 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/04/03/offensive-tweet-donte-divincenzos-account-2011-surfaces/480771002/

Lock him up in jail for racism. Quoting rap lyrics is highly racist