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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2018, 04:36:11 PM »

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I see us getting another pick from a rosier trade...

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2018, 04:37:45 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?
he quoted rap lyrics on twitter when he was 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/04/03/offensive-tweet-donte-divincenzos-account-2011-surfaces/480771002/

Lock him up in jail for racism. Quoting rap lyrics is highly racist

Exactly. That's why I'm curious to see if Beat LA could support his comments with anything of substance.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2018, 06:03:09 PM »

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This is a deep draft. Think they can add a good bench piece. Better then a few guys they have now

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2018, 06:16:21 PM »

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As I mentioned, we will have a few needs to fill. I agree that Danny will go either high upside or solid role player. I think both are doable. We either trade Rozier, lose Smart, and then watch Rozier walk next year. The upside is we have a deeper team next year to contend. The alternative is to trade Rozier and then utilize potentially two pick: one for high upside and one for solid role player. That is why I think the Clippers are a good fit. They have two picks at 12 and 13 and they have not been inclined to rebuild. So you flip Rozier and go high upside with Zhaire Smith at 12 (or Jontay Porter). Then you go Brunson to replace Larkin at 27. One guy contributes right away while the other could be a star in the future. Meanwhile, the Clippers, with Rozier, stand a better chance of avoiding the lottery for next year and theoretically the pick conveys rather than turning into a second rounder later.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2018, 08:41:43 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?
he quoted rap lyrics on twitter when he was 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/04/03/offensive-tweet-donte-divincenzos-account-2011-surfaces/480771002/

Lock him up in jail for racism. Quoting rap lyrics is highly racist

Exactly. That's why I'm curious to see if Beat LA could support his comments with anything of substance.
When I read that comment from Beat LA the 1st thing that popped in my head was, I wonder if that's the same guy who called Steven Adams a racist a while back??  So I checked his posts and indeed it was in fact Beat LA who referred to him as a "racist Greg Kite" all because of 1 innocent slip of the tongue.  Somebody needs a new hobby...

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2018, 08:49:44 PM »

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What else are they going to do with the number two pick?

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2018, 09:25:45 PM »

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Even if we do not trade up there are some interesting guys projected where we select... McCoy j.porter a.simmons Brunson.... I trust in our stuff to select a better ojeleje... a new rozier perhaps...

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2018, 09:55:26 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?
he quoted rap lyrics on twitter when he was 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/04/03/offensive-tweet-donte-divincenzos-account-2011-surfaces/480771002/

Lock him up in jail for racism. Quoting rap lyrics is highly racist

Exactly. That's why I'm curious to see if Beat LA could support his comments with anything of substance.
When I read that comment from Beat LA the 1st thing that popped in my head was, I wonder if that's the same guy who called Steven Adams a racist a while back??  So I checked his posts and indeed it was in fact Beat LA who referred to him as a "racist Greg Kite" all because of 1 innocent slip of the tongue.  Somebody needs a new hobby...
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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2018, 10:38:22 PM »

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The OP serious??

Celts need the pick to cover for potential loss of Baynes, Monroe or Smart

My pick is Divicenzo. Prob will need to move up to draft him

Isn't that dude a racist? Put me down for a no.


How is DiVincenzo racist?
he quoted rap lyrics on twitter when he was 14.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2018/04/03/offensive-tweet-donte-divincenzos-account-2011-surfaces/480771002/

Lock him up in jail for racism. Quoting rap lyrics is highly racist
also used homophobic slurs on his Twitter account. Maybe he was just a dumb kid quoting songs on Twitter but it still isn't a good look.
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Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2018, 11:24:35 PM »

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If decency was at all a consideration there are many pro athletes who would never have been picked. As long as their flaws don't keep them from playing, teams generally are willing to look the other way.

Re: Why bother to draft this year
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2018, 11:39:51 PM »

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I don't know about the immediate financial impact, but generally speaking it's always better to take a shot at getting a contributor on a cheap 4 year deal. Anyone they take with such a late pick wouldn't cost much either, as opposed to someone like Brown or Taytum who are making 7 million just based on being 3rd overall picks.

But yeah, just generally if you miss a draft there's a gap in your team building. It's hard to fill gaps every year by hitting perfectly on cheap signings like Baynes, Theis, and Larkin. More often the talent available for those bargain prices, well, is hard to refer to as "talent" in the first place.

Unless you overpay, it's hard to get the vet role players you need for a contending team on long-term cheapo deals, which is why the Crowder deal was such an amazing steal while he was playing so well. The task of re-filling those spots because guys get too expensive (see: Baynes this offseason) is difficult, so if you somehow hit on a young player who is guaranteed to be around for four years it's a real boon.

If they keep Rozier for next year, he'll be providing unbelievable 2nd unit/6th man depth for pennies. He's doing 100x more than what a typical cheapo free agent vet signing would usually do, and he's also very tradeable to teams that have trouble attracting FAs or want to get a leg-up on maybe signing him next year.

The draft picks are basically like lottery tickets but with odds that improve based on how good your scouting is. If they hit, they're more valuable during those four years than anyone other than the top stars, both as a cheap rotation player and their value as trade bait.