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Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2018, 01:45:54 PM »

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One year deal at 15-18 million would be okay for them but no way do you tie up $ long term in Smart if you are the 76ers

Offer sheets to restricted free agents have to be for at least two years.
Didn't know that. Seems like a strange restriction.

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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2018, 01:47:46 PM »

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If Philly really wanted to start playing 4d chess here, I'd worry about them going after Baynes.

People thinking the C's can re-sign Baynes for the $4m he's getting now forget that he opted out of $6.5m last year because he thought he could get more.  Now having really demonstrated his value against Embiid, while adding a 3 point shot, the market for him probably has improved.

If Philly can't land one of the 3 big fish they're after (LeBron, PG13, Kawhi), I think it would make sense to throw that Amir Johnson type deal at Baynes.    $10-11m for one year gets him out of Boston while helping Philly stay flexible with cap space for the next year.  And there's definitely 20mpg in Philly backing up Embiid, while being a capable starter if Embiid gets hurt, and best of all it eliminates a great Embiid 1-on-1 defender from your competition.

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Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2018, 02:02:37 PM »

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One year deal at 15-18 million would be okay for them but no way do you tie up $ long term in Smart if you are the 76ers

Offer sheets to restricted free agents have to be for at least two years.
Didn't know that. Seems like a strange restriction.

It a contractual one under the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement:

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When a restricted free agent wants to sign with another team, the player and team sign an offer sheet, the principal terms of which the original team is given two days to match.4 The offer sheet must be for at least two seasons (not including option years), and a standard NBA contract (not a Two-Way contract).

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q42

I cannot see him getting much of an offer from the Sixers given their cap situation and the desire for a max FA in the next 2 years.

Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2018, 02:15:39 PM »

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If Philly really wanted to start playing 4d chess here, I'd worry about them going after Baynes.

People thinking the C's can re-sign Baynes for the $4m he's getting now forget that he opted out of $6.5m last year because he thought he could get more.  Now having really demonstrated his value against Embiid, while adding a 3 point shot, the market for him probably has improved.

If Philly can't land one of the 3 big fish they're after (LeBron, PG13, Kawhi), I think it would make sense to throw that Amir Johnson type deal at Baynes.    $10-11m for one year gets him out of Boston while helping Philly stay flexible with cap space for the next year.  And there's definitely 20mpg in Philly backing up Embiid, while being a capable starter if Embiid gets hurt, and best of all it eliminates a great Embiid 1-on-1 defender from your competition.

I don't know if we can keep Baynes, but it's not going to help the Sixers catch the Cs with Irving, Hayward, and Theis back. We'd find another big to take his place at a reasonable price.

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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2018, 02:16:28 PM »

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BTW?

@ 22 seconds the whole team is flopping around on the arc passing back and forth to each other. Rozier dumps to Smart at 12 o'clock and...

Smart fires laser beam to Tatum underneath, layup and C's are up two. Huge. 

Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2018, 02:18:17 PM »

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I think we are safe from the 76eres hitting Smart with any huge deals. They proved last off-season that they value cap flexibility and this is likely with the long term goal of adding another Star. If they miss out on Lebron or George they are more likely to lock up a couple of vets on huge 1 year deals like they just did with Redick and Amir. 
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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2018, 02:23:29 PM »

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If Philly really wanted to start playing 4d chess here, I'd worry about them going after Baynes.

People thinking the C's can re-sign Baynes for the $4m he's getting now forget that he opted out of $6.5m last year because he thought he could get more.  Now having really demonstrated his value against Embiid, while adding a 3 point shot, the market for him probably has improved.

If Philly can't land one of the 3 big fish they're after (LeBron, PG13, Kawhi), I think it would make sense to throw that Amir Johnson type deal at Baynes.    $10-11m for one year gets him out of Boston while helping Philly stay flexible with cap space for the next year.  And there's definitely 20mpg in Philly backing up Embiid, while being a capable starter if Embiid gets hurt, and best of all it eliminates a great Embiid 1-on-1 defender from your competition.

I don't know if we can keep Baynes, but it's not going to help the Sixers catch the Cs with Irving, Hayward, and Theis back. We'd find another big to take his place at a reasonable price.

He would be a nice get for them, but not sure if he will really try to get a multi year deal given he is 31 and showing off new skills...

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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2018, 02:57:50 PM »

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Colangelo is their GM. They are going after a skilled offensive player.

Not a hustle guard like Smart. That is not Colangelo's MO.
Skilled offensive player you say?


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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2018, 03:08:12 PM »

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If Philly strikes out on signing Lebron or Paul George, they will have a ton of cap space available.  Could see them making an above market offer to Smart (say $15mm plus per season) that the Celtics probably would not match.  Look at it from Philly's POV: Not only are they getting a gritty, experienced, vet, they are grabbing the heart and soul of their biggest NBA rival.

Thoughts?

Eh?

Wont happen

They want another reddick type

Also fultz will get mins

Smart fit somewhere else is limited

Celts will resign him

2 years for 25 million

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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2018, 03:09:03 PM »

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Also Rozier stays. Deal with him after next season

1 year Rozier with this team is more valuable then picks

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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2018, 04:23:05 PM »

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Maybe not, with a healthy Kyrie and Hayward, there simply might not be enough minutes for Rozier to make much of an impact. You could argue that keeping him around in case of injury makes sense. In the end it depends on what you could get. A late first round pick might not be enough, but everyone has their price.

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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2018, 04:50:28 PM »

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I would resign Smart on a deal similar to Covington's where he eats up the rest of the cap space for next season and then it goes down each subsequent year.

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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2018, 05:04:06 PM »

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One year deal at 15-18 million would be okay for them but no way do you tie up $ long term in Smart if you are the 76ers
I think DA will overpay a year for Smart so we can make the run with all the guys. 1 year higher 14-15 salary and give Smart a chance to go long term with a good season. Or, Anige may get a crowder bradley long term deal too. 5-50 .
I am very hopeful he is back next year.
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Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2018, 05:10:48 PM »

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Colangelo is their GM. They are going after a skilled offensive player.

Not a hustle guard like Smart. That is not Colangelo's MO.
Skilled offensive player you say?



To be fair, Bargnani wasn't that terrible of a player... He just didn't live up as the 1st round pick. He also ended up netting the Raptors, the 9th draft pick, which ended up becoming Poetl.
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Re: Will Sixers sign Smart to Offer Sheet Celtics Can't Afford to Match?
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2018, 05:20:28 PM »

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Bargs was basically Jeff Green, he made your team a lot worse but he looked like he was helping.

Toronto thought it was going to have to send a pick to dump him, and then the Knicks gave them one. The league laughed hysterically about that.