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Bruins trade for Rick Nash
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:49:56 AM »

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The New York Rangers have traded six-time All-Star forward Rick Nash to the Boston Bruins, the Rangers announced Sunday.

The Rangers will receive forwards Ryan Spooner and Matt Beleskey, prospect defenseman Ryan Lindgren, the Bruins' 2018 first-round draft pick and a 2019 seventh-round pick.

I love that they’re going for it.  He’s on the downside of his career, but he’ll help.


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Re: Bruins trade for Rick Nash
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 09:52:42 AM »

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This could be a really fun spring ahead with the Bruins & Celtics.

B’s are definitely going for it, huh?


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Re: Bruins trade for Rick Nash
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2018, 10:01:04 AM »

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That is a honest move to go for it. Not sure it's enough though.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 10:22:04 AM »

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Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty big overpay?

5 assets including 1st rounder, Spooner and another solid prospect for a pure rental?

I mean yeah, it's nice to get rid of 50% Beleskey's salary, and maybe Nash does help in the playoffs, but it still seems risky.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 10:25:16 AM »

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Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty big overpay?

5 assets including 1st rounder, Spooner and another solid prospect for a pure rental?

I mean yeah, it's nice to get rid of 50% Beleskey's salary, and maybe Nash does help in the playoffs, but it still seems risky.

Spooner was a FA and they get out of at least part of Belesky’s awful contract. A bit of an overpay but in the scheme of things I don’t think it’s that bad.

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 10:26:03 AM »

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That's an awful lot to give up (quantity if not quality) for someone who's going to hit free agency end of season and is already 33 anyway.
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I don't know much about hockey. It seems he'll be one of the oldest on the team. Would it be likely for him to resign at reasonable money if the team does well?

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2018, 11:20:36 AM »

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33 isn't terribly old for hockey

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This is a great go for it all trade. The Bruins have all their draft picks for the next few years, they are extremely young, they have the best playing line and best playing goalie in the league, and could be looking at home ice advantage throughout the playoffs by having a great ending stretch. Love this trade.

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2018, 02:50:00 PM »

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Bruins also signed Brian Gionta for $700,000.

I like that move. Very low risk with potentially high reward. Good veteran presence too, and I think that does matter more than people think (not saying it guarantees a championship, but I think we saw last year how much the B's missed that in some instances)

Although it's unlike with Nash who we had to trade five assets away for, and I'm really not sure he's that kind of "difference maker" that warrants that kind of trade. Is he a solid player? Absolutely. But still...
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Bruins also signed Brian Gionta for $700,000.

I like that move. Very low risk with potentially high reward. Good veteran presence too, and I think that does matter more than people think (not saying it guarantees a championship, but I think we saw last year how much the C's missed that in some instances)

Although it's unlike with Nash who we had to trade five assets away for, and I'm really not sure he's that kind of "difference maker" that warrants that kind of trade. Is he a solid player? Absolutely. But still...

You’ve got to look at the “assets”, though:

* An inferior wing who is a restricted free agent
* A mediocre prospect defenseman
* A wing with negative trade value
* A late 1st rounder
* A 7th rounder

Spooner is the only asset that is likely to add anything to a team, and Nash is an upgrade.

This is the Bruins’ equivalent of “Yabu + #1 for Tyreke”. I’d still do that deal.


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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2018, 03:09:02 PM »

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33 isn't terribly old for hockey
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 03:41:09 PM »

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Bruins also signed Brian Gionta for $700,000.

I like that move. Very low risk with potentially high reward. Good veteran presence too, and I think that does matter more than people think (not saying it guarantees a championship, but I think we saw last year how much the C's missed that in some instances)

Although it's unlike with Nash who we had to trade five assets away for, and I'm really not sure he's that kind of "difference maker" that warrants that kind of trade. Is he a solid player? Absolutely. But still...

You’ve got to look at the “assets”, though:

* An inferior wing who is a restricted free agent
* A mediocre prospect defenseman
* A wing with negative trade value
* A late 1st rounder
* A 7th rounder

Spooner is the only asset that is likely to add anything to a team, and Nash is an upgrade.

This is the Bruins’ equivalent of “Yabu + #1 for Tyreke”. I’d still do that deal.


A late 1st Rd pick in the NHL is still a very valuable asset. Sure, it's not as valuable as a higher pick, but the difference in value between the beginning and end of the 1st round in the NHL is far different than what that difference would be in the NBA.

That said, I still like this deal for the Bruins. Nash is a proven veteran (but not too old) that could very well give the B's that extra push they need to win the Cup this year.

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 03:48:54 PM »

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Bruins also signed Brian Gionta for $700,000.

I like that move. Very low risk with potentially high reward. Good veteran presence too, and I think that does matter more than people think (not saying it guarantees a championship, but I think we saw last year how much the C's missed that in some instances)

Although it's unlike with Nash who we had to trade five assets away for, and I'm really not sure he's that kind of "difference maker" that warrants that kind of trade. Is he a solid player? Absolutely. But still...

You’ve got to look at the “assets”, though:

* An inferior wing who is a restricted free agent
* A mediocre prospect defenseman
* A wing with negative trade value
* A late 1st rounder
* A 7th rounder

Spooner is the only asset that is likely to add anything to a team, and Nash is an upgrade.

This is the Bruins’ equivalent of “Yabu + #1 for Tyreke”. I’d still do that deal.


A late 1st Rd pick in the NHL is still a very valuable asset. Sure, it's not as valuable as a higher pick, but the difference in value between the beginning and end of the 1st round in the NHL is far different than what that difference would be in the NBA.

That said, I still like this deal for the Bruins. Nash is a proven veteran (but not too old) that could very well give the B's that extra push they need to win the Cup this year.

Those picks still aren’t worth very much:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/analyzing-value-nhl-draft-picks/

A late first rounder apparently isn’t worth all much more than a 3rd rounder.


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Re: Bruins trade for Rick Nash
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2018, 03:54:35 PM »

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Bruins also signed Brian Gionta for $700,000.

I like that move. Very low risk with potentially high reward. Good veteran presence too, and I think that does matter more than people think (not saying it guarantees a championship, but I think we saw last year how much the C's missed that in some instances)

Although it's unlike with Nash who we had to trade five assets away for, and I'm really not sure he's that kind of "difference maker" that warrants that kind of trade. Is he a solid player? Absolutely. But still...

You’ve got to look at the “assets”, though:

* An inferior wing who is a restricted free agent
* A mediocre prospect defenseman
* A wing with negative trade value
* A late 1st rounder
* A 7th rounder

Spooner is the only asset that is likely to add anything to a team, and Nash is an upgrade.

This is the Bruins’ equivalent of “Yabu + #1 for Tyreke”. I’d still do that deal.


A late 1st Rd pick in the NHL is still a very valuable asset. Sure, it's not as valuable as a higher pick, but the difference in value between the beginning and end of the 1st round in the NHL is far different than what that difference would be in the NBA.

That said, I still like this deal for the Bruins. Nash is a proven veteran (but not too old) that could very well give the B's that extra push they need to win the Cup this year.

Those picks still aren’t worth very much:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/analyzing-value-nhl-draft-picks/

A late first rounder apparently isn’t worth all much more than a 3rd rounder.

I think that study isn't worth a whole lot when they immediately throw out two of the most important positions in the game as part of the study.
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