Kyrie Flirting With 50/40/90

[wayupnorth]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?  I feel like I'm commonly seeing him with 20-30 and everyone else looking disengaged.  Have you also noticed that?

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Come on now, your dislike of Kyrie is showing through here.

If Kyrie continues what he has been doing the last 15 games for the rest of the year that would mean 28PPG and 5 APG from our PG.

IT, who you love, scored 29PPG with 6 APG on very similar shooting percentages.

So for 1 more PPG and 1 more APG IT had meaningful stats and Kyrie has empty stats? Come on now?!?!

Isaiah also played 2 more MPG and was an absolute disaster defensively.

Good point, but not on topic.  Kyrie is also a disaster defensively, and IT had the better clutch stats last season.  Were you aware of that?

In the spirit of side-stepping the topic, Kyrie wears finger-friendly mittens and loves to hear himself speak.

It's relevant because Irving is actually exerting effort on defense, as opposed to the human turnstile that Thomas was. So if we would conserve himself defensively, again like Thomas would, it could generate even greater offensive numbers and efficiency. It's pretty comical for you to even suggest that Irving has been bad defensively.

So....

"Whether you like it, or don't like it, sit down and look at it because it's the BEST. GOING. TODAY. WOOOOO!!!"
- Ric Flair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPvP67YCgUE

He probably feels obligated to exert some effort, given he's the most privileged player in the NBA.  That said, you don't need to watch very closely to observe how horrible Kyrie is defensively.  Did you mean to say that his advanced defensive stats are good?

Kyrie is a better player for his team that IT, and a better player overall.

Your anti Kyrie bias is truly incredible.

Not to mention there is zero basis for you "privilege" comment, absolutely none, except for the fact you irrationally dislike him.

How you can hate the best player, by far, on your favorite team so much baffles me.

I have literally never seen anything like it.

For real, what did he do to you?

[tarheelsxxiii]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?  I feel like I'm commonly seeing him with 20-30 and everyone else looking disengaged.  Have you also noticed that?

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Come on now, your dislike of Kyrie is showing through here.

If Kyrie continues what he has been doing the last 15 games for the rest of the year that would mean 28PPG and 5 APG from our PG.

IT, who you love, scored 29PPG with 6 APG on very similar shooting percentages.

So for 1 more PPG and 1 more APG IT had meaningful stats and Kyrie has empty stats? Come on now?!?!

Isaiah also played 2 more MPG and was an absolute disaster defensively.

Good point, but not on topic.  Kyrie is also a disaster defensively, and IT had the better clutch stats last season.  Were you aware of that?

In the spirit of side-stepping the topic, Kyrie wears finger-friendly mittens and loves to hear himself speak.

It's relevant because Irving is actually exerting effort on defense, as opposed to the human turnstile that Thomas was. So if we would conserve himself defensively, again like Thomas would, it could generate even greater offensive numbers and efficiency. It's pretty comical for you to even suggest that Irving has been bad defensively.

So....

"Whether you like it, or don't like it, sit down and look at it because it's the BEST. GOING. TODAY. WOOOOO!!!"
- Ric Flair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPvP67YCgUE

He probably feels obligated to exert some effort, given he's the most privileged player in the NBA.  That said, you don't need to watch very closely to observe how horrible Kyrie is defensively.  Did you mean to say that his advanced defensive stats are good?

Kyrie is a better player for his team that IT, and a better player overall.

Your anti Kyrie bias is truly incredible.

Not to mention there is zero basis for you "privilege" comment, absolutely none, except for the fact you irrationally dislike him.

How you can hate the best player, by far, on your favorite team so much baffles me.

I have literally never seen anything like it.

For real, what did he do to you?

Can you restate your thoughts in a way that's at least loosely related to the topic?

My comments were that he doesn't do enough to get others involved imo, then we got sidetracked a bit about his poor defense due to Eddie's trolling.

[Boris Badenov]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?

You: “His scoring feels empty.”

Me: “He’s one of the two best clutch scorers in the NBA.”

You: “Irrelevant to my post!”

I repeat: mmmhmhm.

[tarheelsxxiii]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?

You: “His scoring feels empty.”

Me: “He’s one of the two best clutch scorers in the NBA.”

You: “Irrelevant to my post!”

I repeat: mmmhmhm.

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

[gouki88]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?  I feel like I'm commonly seeing him with 20-30 and everyone else looking disengaged.  Have you also noticed that?

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Come on now, your dislike of Kyrie is showing through here.

If Kyrie continues what he has been doing the last 15 games for the rest of the year that would mean 28PPG and 5 APG from our PG.

IT, who you love, scored 29PPG with 6 APG on very similar shooting percentages.

So for 1 more PPG and 1 more APG IT had meaningful stats and Kyrie has empty stats? Come on now?!?!

Isaiah also played 2 more MPG and was an absolute disaster defensively.

Good point, but not on topic.  Kyrie is also a disaster defensively, and IT had the better clutch stats last season.  Were you aware of that?

In the spirit of side-stepping the topic, Kyrie wears finger-friendly mittens and loves to hear himself speak.

It's relevant because Irving is actually exerting effort on defense, as opposed to the human turnstile that Thomas was. So if we would conserve himself defensively, again like Thomas would, it could generate even greater offensive numbers and efficiency. It's pretty comical for you to even suggest that Irving has been bad defensively.

So....

"Whether you like it, or don't like it, sit down and look at it because it's the BEST. GOING. TODAY. WOOOOO!!!"
- Ric Flair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPvP67YCgUE

He probably feels obligated to exert some effort, given he's the most privileged player in the NBA.  That said, you don't need to watch very closely to observe how horrible Kyrie is defensively.  Did you mean to say that his advanced defensive stats are good?

Kyrie is a better player for his team that IT, and a better player overall.

Your anti Kyrie bias is truly incredible.

Not to mention there is zero basis for you "privilege" comment, absolutely none, except for the fact you irrationally dislike him.

How you can hate the best player, by far, on your favorite team so much baffles me.

I have literally never seen anything like it.

For real, what did he do to you?

It's exhausting isn't it?

[jdz101]

Another click, another mound of tarheels rubbish. Lets see if I can go 3/3 on the kyrie 50/40/90 one.

[Eddie20]

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Mmmhmhm.

http://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/

Other than not at all, how are clutch stats related to him making plays for others?  Loosely at best, right?  I feel like I'm commonly seeing him with 20-30 and everyone else looking disengaged.  Have you also noticed that?

His scoring often feels empty.  I'd rather see him getting others involved in the PnR, semi-transition, etc. than in isolation.

Come on now, your dislike of Kyrie is showing through here.

If Kyrie continues what he has been doing the last 15 games for the rest of the year that would mean 28PPG and 5 APG from our PG.

IT, who you love, scored 29PPG with 6 APG on very similar shooting percentages.

So for 1 more PPG and 1 more APG IT had meaningful stats and Kyrie has empty stats? Come on now?!?!

Isaiah also played 2 more MPG and was an absolute disaster defensively.

Good point, but not on topic.  Kyrie is also a disaster defensively, and IT had the better clutch stats last season.  Were you aware of that?

In the spirit of side-stepping the topic, Kyrie wears finger-friendly mittens and loves to hear himself speak.

It's relevant because Irving is actually exerting effort on defense, as opposed to the human turnstile that Thomas was. So if we would conserve himself defensively, again like Thomas would, it could generate even greater offensive numbers and efficiency. It's pretty comical for you to even suggest that Irving has been bad defensively.

So....

"Whether you like it, or don't like it, sit down and look at it because it's the BEST. GOING. TODAY. WOOOOO!!!"
- Ric Flair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPvP67YCgUE

He probably feels obligated to exert some effort, given he's the most privileged player in the NBA.  That said, you don't need to watch very closely to observe how horrible Kyrie is defensively.  Did you mean to say that his advanced defensive stats are good?

Kyrie is a better player for his team that IT, and a better player overall.

Your anti Kyrie bias is truly incredible.

Not to mention there is zero basis for you "privilege" comment, absolutely none, except for the fact you irrationally dislike him.

How you can hate the best player, by far, on your favorite team so much baffles me.

I have literally never seen anything like it.

For real, what did he do to you?

Can you restate your thoughts in a way that's at least loosely related to the topic?

My comments were that he doesn't do enough to get others involved imo, then we got sidetracked a bit about his poor defense due to Eddie's trolling.

Interesting choice of words considering your MO resulting in illogical posts on every Kyrie thread. Some might consider that hypocritical, but I guess the pot doesn't easily recognize the similarity with kettle.

[jambr380]

People react in two different ways when they realize they have been offensive (or wrong): they either apologize/downplay what they said and try to be more 'sensitive' about the issue in the future OR they double down in their approach to really ignite those who originally took offense.

Tarheels has clearly gone with the latter option and attempting to argue with him about the merits of Kyrie has shown to be a futile exercise.

The good news is, that outside of Kyrie, tarheels is actually a very productive member of CB and often adds a lot to the discussion about various topics. I think it's probably best if we try not to engage him about all things 'Irving' related, however, since there is clearly something going on there. Maybe one day he will come around on his own, but that day is not now.

[Roy H.]

The topic here is Kyrie, not other members. Get back on track please.

[Celtics4ever]

Bottom line is that Kyrie can shoot the lights out whether you like him or not. 

[johnnygreen]

I think Kyrie ends up with 48/41/89 and falls short by the slightest of margins. He is an amazing player and a wizard with the ball. What's amazing with the shooting splits he has, is that he routinely takes extremely difficult shots with either hand, and makes them look routine.

[JohnBoy65]

I cannot say this for certain, but I am very confident that this team would not be 26-7 if IT were here. I attribute the early season success to Kyrie's effectiveness and efficiency. If you think Kyrie's stats are 'empty' so be it, but if those 'empty stat's get the C's to 52-14 I will take it.

[Green-18]

Before the season I said that Kyrie could approach Stephen Curry levels of efficiency but on a much lower volume of threes.  He's not there yet but I wouldn't be surprised to see a full season of 50/45/90 at some point in the future.  Watching him clutch moments is a sight to behold. 

My only minor criticism is that he has played some hero ball lately.  I don't mind his aggressiveness but the step back threes early in the shot clock need to stop.  Worst case scenario he can take the same exact shot late in the clock if our offensive set doesn't lead to anything.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Since he broke his face, he is averaging 53%, 47%, and 88% for 30 points per 36 minutes.

[PAOBoston]

Before the season I said that Kyrie could approach Stephen Curry levels of efficiency but on a much lower volume of threes.  He's not there yet but I wouldn't be surprised to see a full season of 50/45/90 at some point in the future.  Watching him clutch moments is a sight to behold. 

My only minor criticism is that he has played some hero ball lately.  I don't mind his aggressiveness but the step back threes early in the shot clock need to stop.  Worst case scenario he can take the same exact shot late in the clock if our offensive set doesn't lead to anything.

I agree about the hero ball stuff. Noticed too on a couple of occasions. That being said, with no Hayward, I would still rather he take them than someone else.