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you rate him above which of these players: jerry west? sam jones? magic? bird? jordan? miller? isaih thomas I?thread seems rooted too much in the recent nba and a bit early in kyrie's career.
Quote from: hwangjini_1 on November 17, 2017, 11:30:51 AMyou rate him above which of these players: jerry west? sam jones? magic? bird? jordan? miller? isaih thomas I?thread seems rooted too much in the recent nba and a bit early in kyrie's career.This^I need to see more.
Did Irving even make a shot in the clutch last night? He got to the line a lot, which is great, but he seemed to miss a lot of shots, many of them open or at the rim area.
What defines Kyrie as clutch outside of one really big shot? I’m genuinely curious.
Quote from: Roy H. on November 17, 2017, 01:02:18 PMWhat defines Kyrie as clutch outside of one really big shot? I’m genuinely curious.Ability to close the game .. not just one shot... I like to use the final 5 minutes of total efficiency ... We have seen it in the finals with Cleveland and are starting to see it already in Boston..I just feel while he hasnt played as long as Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic etc .. His clutch performances are probably at a higher percentage than anyone during his total amount time played ..just my 2 cents
Quote from: PaulAllen on November 17, 2017, 01:08:24 PMQuote from: Roy H. on November 17, 2017, 01:02:18 PMWhat defines Kyrie as clutch outside of one really big shot? I’m genuinely curious.Ability to close the game .. not just one shot... I like to use the final 5 minutes of total efficiency ... We have seen it in the finals with Cleveland and are starting to see it already in Boston..I just feel while he hasnt played as long as Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic etc .. His clutch performances are probably at a higher percentage than anyone during his total amount time played ..just my 2 centsI hear this a lot, which is why I asked.Last year, his “clutch” numbers were terrible.http://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=GP
Quote from: Roy H. on November 17, 2017, 01:17:28 PMQuote from: PaulAllen on November 17, 2017, 01:08:24 PMQuote from: Roy H. on November 17, 2017, 01:02:18 PMWhat defines Kyrie as clutch outside of one really big shot? I’m genuinely curious.Ability to close the game .. not just one shot... I like to use the final 5 minutes of total efficiency ... We have seen it in the finals with Cleveland and are starting to see it already in Boston..I just feel while he hasnt played as long as Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Magic etc .. His clutch performances are probably at a higher percentage than anyone during his total amount time played ..just my 2 centsI hear this a lot, which is why I asked.Last year, his “clutch” numbers were terrible.http://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=GPOther guys with horrible clutch numbers on this list: Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, Damian Lillard, DeMarcus Cousins, and Anthony Davis. He'll be fine. He's shooting 56% in the clutch so far this season, and leads the league with 5.8 clutch points.
Quote from: Moranis on November 17, 2017, 11:43:55 AMDid Irving even make a shot in the clutch last night? He got to the line a lot, which is great, but he seemed to miss a lot of shots, many of them open or at the rim area.I was pretty dissapointed in Irving for the entire game. He seemed a little passive given the magnitude of the game. I was expecting him to take over at the end which he never did either.
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