can semi replace crowder? I think so

[SHAQATTACK]

Biceps .....Check    and more.

BB IQ ........Maybe one day .....takes on court time.....i think so.

Hustling......wait and see ....i think so

Defense ....I think so with time.....lots of work .....Semi appears fearless....and he should be built like a freaking bulldozer.

I feel Crowder lost some of the edge or fight he came to the Celtics with. Maybe he was around Kelly O.  too much.   He ll most likely play well with a new team.  Loved his game , but soemthing was wrong this past year.

[incoherent]

We have this guy on our team named Gordon Hayward, who not only replaces Crowder completely, but is a massive upgrade.

[CoachBo]

We have this guy on our team named Gordon Hayward, who not only replaces Crowder completely, but is a massive upgrade.

Yes, but he's not obscure.

[tonydelk]

Talent wise I believe both have the same ceiling with Semi a little higher because he seems to be a better shooter.  With hard work and coaching maybe Semi can be a better player.

Now the intangibles right now he's not close to Crowder.  Crowder is a leader and it will take Semi a few years to become one.  I think the things that Crowder does as a teammate that can't be measured via stats are what separates him from Semi on a wide margin.  People can say what they want about Jae but I was and still am a huge fan.  He helped create the identity that the Celtics team had for the last few years.  They had a chip on their shoulder that made up for some of the talent gap they had versus other teams.  Now in the end it wasn't enough to align them with the Cavs or GSW but IMO they could have beaten any other team in the league with the team that was constructed last year.  Jae was a big part of that.  Semi may never be the leader and locker room guy Jae is so he will have to make that up with superior talent. 

Production wise, neither are good passers or guys who can create their own shot at will but they both are very good 3 and D type players.  Semi can prove us wrong because we haven't seen him in a NBA game yet and all we have so far are college highlights and summer league.  The knock on Jae was his consistency and stepping up in the playoffs.  He would have great stretches in the regular season but seemed to disappear a lot in the playoffs.

 Semi will have to prove he is a willing rebounder.  Jae was hit or miss and could have averaged more then 5.8 per game then he did last year with more of an effort.  The C's did not have anyone who was an elite rebounder and a lot of it comes down to effort.  If Semi can shoot better and put more effort on the glass then he can easily replace most of the statistical production Jae did.  Leadership and locker room presence he can't sniff Jae right now.

The seem to be similar players but we will have to see what type of intangibles Semi developes to determine if he can replace all of Jae's contributions to the C's.

[nickagneta]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders and undrafted rookies this board has because the poster saw some college highlights, high school highlights or a good showing in Summer League. Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

Jae Crowder since he got here was a 30 MPG, 14 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 SPG player that was highly efficient at scoring while playing plus or better defense and helped to define the team's character. Ojeleye won't replace that for many years if ever.

[Jiri Welsch]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders and undrafted rookies this board has because the poster saw some college highlights, high school highlights or a good showing in Summer League. Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

Jae Crowder since he got here was a 30 MPG, 14 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 SPG player that was highly efficient at scoring while playing plus or better defense and helped to define the team's character. Ojeleye won't replace that for many years if ever.

Crowder was also a second rounder!

No, I agree the hope should, until we see differently, be "some day in the not-so-near future Semi could reach that level"

[KGs Knee]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders.....Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

And sometimes they turn into players like Marc Gasol, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Isaiah Thomas, or even Jae Crowder.

[moiso]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders.....Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

And sometimes they turn into players like Marc Gasol, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Isaiah Thomas, or even Jae Crowder.

Just not when the Celtics draft them

[rollie mass]

Semi was a top recruit out of high school
recruited and attended duke got trapped behind some very good players
Was red shirted at SMU by Larry Brown
Blossomed under his last season under Larry Brown at SMU
Trained at hoop house with tatum under watchful eye of Drew Hanlon
Best athlete at combine-the kid is dedicated and can really shoot
Lane agility and lateral speed,sprint
 40 inch vertical jump
taller than jay,as strong as jay
wide body, great defensive stance,lower body power
Brad will find a way--many think he is the steal of the draft-larry brown can't understand his draft position -thought it was an age thing.
Got recruited by two Hall of Fame coaches and played for both

[Tr1boy]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders and undrafted rookies this board has because the poster saw some college highlights, high school highlights or a good showing in Summer League. Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

Jae Crowder since he got here was a 30 MPG, 14 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 SPG player that was highly efficient at scoring while playing plus or better defense and helped to define the team's character. Ojeleye won't replace that for many years if ever.

These days there are alot more investment in 2nd round picks.  More and more Semis are being drafted instead of 'hype'  empty calorie athletes

Players like Brogdon, Semi ....very decent chance at least they can be serviceable role players. Then you have the international players (mystery)

[CoachBo]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders and undrafted rookies this board has because the poster saw some college highlights, high school highlights or a good showing in Summer League. Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

Jae Crowder since he got here was a 30 MPG, 14 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 SPG player that was highly efficient at scoring while playing plus or better defense and helped to define the team's character. Ojeleye won't replace that for many years if ever.

Well said.

[nickagneta]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders.....Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

And sometimes they turn into players like Marc Gasol, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Isaiah Thomas, or even Jae Crowder.

Except most of the time they don't and it hasn't happened with Ainge in the last ten years and even then it was Big Baby and not a star. So maybe Ainge is due to hit on a 2nd rounder but I'm not putting my faith in this kid developing into a Crowder for at least a couple years, if ever.

[Roy H.]

I will just never understand the love for 2nd rounders and undrafted rookies this board has because the poster saw some college highlights, high school highlights or a good showing in Summer League. Most times these players turn into absolutely nothing.

Jae Crowder since he got here was a 30 MPG, 14 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 SPG player that was highly efficient at scoring while playing plus or better defense and helped to define the team's character. Ojeleye won't replace that for many years if ever.

Yeah, people just do not realize what a good year he had last year. Among qualified small forwards, Jae was:

13th in scoring
3rd in threes made per game
7th in 3PT%
12th in assists per game
12th in rebounding

Tatum won't match that production as a rookie, let alone Semih..

[Eddie20]

I saw several clips of monster dunks and putbacks
The intensity of his reaction the aggression and defiance if he channels that
he will be a menace with his lateral speed, agility and what looks like unmovable mass
.I believe he could eclipse crowder -

I saw several clips of monster dunks and putbacks
The intensity of his reaction the aggression and defiance if he channels that
he will be a menace with his lateral speed, agility and legit 7-foot height
.I believe he could eclipse amir with kylie feeding him the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTsxxI-KBcI

[CoachBo]

Semi was a top recruit out of high school
recruited and attended duke got trapped behind some very good players
Was red shirted at SMU by Larry Brown
Blossomed under his last season under Larry Brown at SMU
Trained at hoop house with tatum under watchful eye of Drew Hanlon
Best athlete at combine-the kid is dedicated and can really shoot
Lane agility and lateral speed,sprint
 40 inch vertical jump
taller than jay,as strong as jay
wide body, great defensive stance,lower body power
Brad will find a way--many think he is the steal of the draft-larry brown can't understand his draft position -thought it was an age thing.
Got recruited by two Hall of Fame coaches and played for both

Who exactly would "they" be? Knowing would be helpful as I evaluate a pundit's credibility.

Or lack thereof.