Re-grade Danny offseason (poll)

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

A

added hayward

improved team with kyrie

drafted jayson AND got an extra pick

fabulous off season.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

F really??

dude..............4 people voted  for "F"  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I will bet i know who one of them was and his handle here starts with a capital "C" as in Casper the friendly ghost.

[crimson_stallion]

I think this was a risky move that could still go end up being anything from a plus move, to a sidestep, to a backwards step. 

I just don't know yet at this stage, and I don't think we truly will have any indication until AT LEAST the all-star break, because the success of this offseason is going to be very largely dependant on the development of Brown and Tatum and the rest of our young players, and we won't really see what we have with those guys until at least half a season is gone.

Kyrie, Hayward and Horford on a team full of nobodies is not IMHO enough to challenge Golden State (or perhaps even Cleveland).  We need two very good starters (of the Bradley / Crowder calibre) at the other two starting spots to fill out the team well enough for it to be a true contender, and we'll also need a strong showing from our bench. That means we are going to need Brown and Tatum to step up in a huge way and prove they can be consistent impact players. 

Smart (as the now longest tenured Celtic) is also going to have to prove he is ready to step up his game and his maturity to prove he can be a true leader for the second unit, on and off the court. 

We also need Horford to be FAR more consistent in the regular season then he has been for the past 2-3 years.  What we saw from him in the playoffs last season - that's the Horford we need out there every night.

And we need Morris to prove he can provide us with a steady and consistent starter's production (rather than the streaky play he's shown so far in his previous stints).

If all of that comes together perfectly, this grade may well increase to an A.  If it fails to come together, then the team may regress, and this grade may fall to a C. 

For now I'm giving it a B to factor in that we got two legitimate All-Stars, but sacrificed a LOT in order to get them.

[Casperian]

F really??

dude..............4 people voted  for "F"  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I will bet i know who one of them was and his handle here starts with a capital "C" as in Casper the friendly ghost.

Nope, but it's 5 people now LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Tr1boy]

Have to admit though, the Celtics certainly look more formidable in the NBA and gone is the "weak #1 seed in history" and "pretender team of overachievers" look we keep getting from the national/local media.

I had the offseason grade at a solid B before the Irving trade. Now have it at B- (so I guess it's a B in this poll)

Yes... No longer the little engine that could...but ultimately could not

You pluck utahs best , one of cavs best and all of these small but strategic moves....


I think this squad can make the finals this season

The season after ....  Exciting times

[green_bballers13]

Have to admit though, the Celtics certainly look more formidable in the NBA and gone is the "weak #1 seed in history" and "pretender team of overachievers" look we keep getting from the national/local media.

I had the offseason grade at a solid B before the Irving trade. Now have it at B- (so I guess it's a B in this poll)

Yes... No longer the little engine that could...but ultimately could not

You pluck utahs best , one of cavs best and all of these small but strategic moves....


I think this squad can make the finals this season

The season after ....  Exciting times

Yeah, I'm not quite at the KG/Ray level of excitement, but I'm getting there...

That path is starting to get clearer. Three guys w/ experience in Horford, Hayward, and Irving coupled with 3 young talents like Brown, Tatum, and our next high pick.

We're still not there with GS, but we should be able to give CLE a series next year. Even if they lose, make Lebron sweat a little before he gets smashed again by GS.

[crimson_stallion]

Have to admit though, the Celtics certainly look more formidable in the NBA and gone is the "weak #1 seed in history" and "pretender team of overachievers" look we keep getting from the national/local media.

I had the offseason grade at a solid B before the Irving trade. Now have it at B- (so I guess it's a B in this poll)

Yes... No longer the little engine that could...but ultimately could not

You pluck utahs best , one of cavs best and all of these small but strategic moves....


I think this squad can make the finals this season

The season after ....  Exciting times

Yeah, I'm not quite at the KG/Ray level of excitement, but I'm getting there...

That path is starting to get clearer. Three guys w/ experience in Horford, Hayward, and Irving coupled with 3 young talents like Brown, Tatum, and our next high pick.

We're still not there with GS, but we should be able to give CLE a series next year. Even if they lose, make Lebron sweat a little before he gets smashed again by GS.

I have my eyes firmly locked on Tatum.  I hate putting this much pressure on a rookie, but I feel like that kid has the potential to become the type of talent that comes along 4 or 5 times a decade.   The last wings I can think of who had his combination of size and all-round offensive polish were Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce, and they will like both go down as hall of famers (Pierces for sure, Melo most likely).
 
The closest I've seen to Tatum since that is Jabari Parker, and he just put up 20 and 6 (on 49% shooting) for the Bucks last year as a 21 year old - and I honestly think Tatum is more skilled/polished offensively then Parker was come draft time.   

I feel we are one piece away from being able to compete with a team like Golden State, and I feel Tatum could (not saying he WILL, but COULD) be that extra piece.  Maybe not this year, but in the following year or two.   

[CelticsElite]

Have to admit though, the Celtics certainly look more formidable in the NBA and gone is the "weak #1 seed in history" and "pretender team of overachievers" look we keep getting from the national/local media.

I had the offseason grade at a solid B before the Irving trade. Now have it at B- (so I guess it's a B in this poll)

Yes... No longer the little engine that could...but ultimately could not

You pluck utahs best , one of cavs best and all of these small but strategic moves....


I think this squad can make the finals this season

The season after ....  Exciting times

Yeah, I'm not quite at the KG/Ray level of excitement, but I'm getting there...

That path is starting to get clearer. Three guys w/ experience in Horford, Hayward, and Irving coupled with 3 young talents like Brown, Tatum, and our next high pick.

We're still not there with GS, but we should be able to give CLE a series next year. Even if they lose, make Lebron sweat a little before he gets smashed again by GS.

I have my eyes firmly locked on Tatum.  I hate putting this much pressure on a rookie, but I feel like that kid has the potential to become the type of talent that comes along 4 or 5 times a decade.   The last wings I can think of who had his combination of size and all-round offensive polish were Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce, and they will like both go down as hall of famers (Pierces for sure, Melo most likely).
 
The closest I've seen to Tatum since that is Jabari Parker, and he just put up 20 and 6 (on 49% shooting) for the Bucks last year as a 21 year old - and I honestly think Tatum is more skilled/polished offensively then Parker was come draft time.   

I feel we are one piece away from being able to compete with a team like Golden State, and I feel Tatum could (not saying he WILL, but COULD) be that extra piece.  Maybe not this year, but in the following year or two.

agree 100%. I voted F as a joke but it's an A. This off season would have been a huge success if we just added Tatum. How often do contending teams add an elite lottery prospect? Its Auerbach-like addition. but Hayward and Irving  ? two all stars as well as Morris?  Danny outdid himself.  we have a chance to get to the finals. We can beat the cavs with youth and transition

[crimson_stallion]

Have to admit though, the Celtics certainly look more formidable in the NBA and gone is the "weak #1 seed in history" and "pretender team of overachievers" look we keep getting from the national/local media.

I had the offseason grade at a solid B before the Irving trade. Now have it at B- (so I guess it's a B in this poll)

Yes... No longer the little engine that could...but ultimately could not

You pluck utahs best , one of cavs best and all of these small but strategic moves....


I think this squad can make the finals this season

The season after ....  Exciting times

Yeah, I'm not quite at the KG/Ray level of excitement, but I'm getting there...

That path is starting to get clearer. Three guys w/ experience in Horford, Hayward, and Irving coupled with 3 young talents like Brown, Tatum, and our next high pick.

We're still not there with GS, but we should be able to give CLE a series next year. Even if they lose, make Lebron sweat a little before he gets smashed again by GS.

I have my eyes firmly locked on Tatum.  I hate putting this much pressure on a rookie, but I feel like that kid has the potential to become the type of talent that comes along 4 or 5 times a decade.   The last wings I can think of who had his combination of size and all-round offensive polish were Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce, and they will like both go down as hall of famers (Pierces for sure, Melo most likely).
 
The closest I've seen to Tatum since that is Jabari Parker, and he just put up 20 and 6 (on 49% shooting) for the Bucks last year as a 21 year old - and I honestly think Tatum is more skilled/polished offensively then Parker was come draft time.   

I feel we are one piece away from being able to compete with a team like Golden State, and I feel Tatum could (not saying he WILL, but COULD) be that extra piece.  Maybe not this year, but in the following year or two.

agree 100%. I voted F as a joke but it's an A. This off season would have been a huge success if we just added Tatum. How often do contending teams add an elite lottery prospect? Its Auerbach-like addition. but Hayward and Irving  ? two all stars as well as Morris?  Danny outdid himself.  we have a chance to get to the finals. We can beat the cavs with youth and transition

We can also give the Cavs a lot of trouble with outside shooting. 

I would go so far as to say that Kyrie and Hayward are borderline elite shooters.  I wouldn't say they are quite elite (not on Curry, Klay, Ray level) but they are one step behind.

Throw in two bigs (Morris and Horford) who are legitimate three point threats.  If we start Brown, and he can prove himself to be a legitimate 3PT threat...we are going to be REALLY hard to guard. 

Even with Crowder out there as a solid perimeter defender, I don't know how the Cavs lineup of Thomas/Rose, Lebron (who can defend, but is rarely bothered), Love and Thompson is going to go running out and challenging all of those three point shooters. I think they will struggle immensely.   

[2short]

I regraded Danny from a b to an a awhile ago.  I have been thinking about how the parts fits together more and am really becoming impressed with a lesser move.  Avery has to go in a salary dump to be able to sign Hayward.  Sorry to Bradley go but huge improvement there.  Morris coming the c's gives us a low post option.  We had many times last year with nice ball movement but it became predictable that we were just shooting threes.  He will add inside out, Irving penetrating and kicking or finishing (much like IT).  I think with the group of offensive players on this squad, and boy has the offense improved, we will see how important horford is as an all around player.
I didn't like to give up pick but the Tatum deal I'm loving, kid looks like he is going to be very special.

[Tr1boy]

Danny Ainge had to pull the trigger. The gulf between the Cavs and Celtics in the conference finals last year was enormous. Boston couldn’t match Cleveland’s firepower, whether in the halfcourt or in transition. The NBA is all about scoring, and if you have enough elite two-way players like Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on your team, you have a chance to be able to play enough defense to win big. The Celtics had very good defenders in Crowder and Amir Johnson, but you couldn’t start two non-scoring threats against the Cavs. Kyrie Irving is the best — the best — player in the league with the basketball. Better than Westbrook, who’s electric and fierce, and John Wall, who’s a blur. There’s no one who can stay in front of Irving; he goes from zero to scalding in about four seconds. – via NBA.com

[Eddie20]

Danny Ainge had to pull the trigger. The gulf between the Cavs and Celtics in the conference finals last year was enormous. Boston couldn’t match Cleveland’s firepower, whether in the halfcourt or in transition. The NBA is all about scoring, and if you have enough elite two-way players like Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on your team, you have a chance to be able to play enough defense to win big. The Celtics had very good defenders in Crowder and Amir Johnson, but you couldn’t start two non-scoring threats against the Cavs. Kyrie Irving is the best — the best — player in the league with the basketball. Better than Westbrook, who’s electric and fierce, and John Wall, who’s a blur. There’s no one who can stay in front of Irving; he goes from zero to scalding in about four seconds. – via NBA.com

That was actually from the respected David Aldridge.

[pearljammer10]

Easily an A+.

He re-constructed the entire roster. It was clear that the team we had was not going to win a championship and he has put us in a much better position to do so while lengthening our window to compete longer.

Losing the Brooklyn pick stinks but getting back a former number 1 pick just entering his prime is a prize in itself. Something the Brooklyn pick isn't guaranteed to give us. Plus we still have plenty of assets.

Ainge brought in two big fish, kept our asset cabinet stocked, has a great balance of win-now veterans and ready to contribute youth. We are in a position to contend now and in the future.

[Moranis]

I was a B-, I moved to a B post-Irving trade.

[chambers]

An absolute A+. We have some visible direction with this core now. We have 3 All Stars locked up long term. We have 4 STUD super young guys in Smart, Brown, Tatum and Rozier and we have some sleepers like Semi and Nader and our best player is 25 years old!

We don't have to re-sign IT to an enormous contract and the risk that goes with his age, size and injury status. We replaced him with a younger top 5 PG who is a killer scorer in the clutch with championship experience at the highest level!

We have opened up room for 2 young guys that play Jae Crowder's position and have a chance to be far more complete players than he was ever going to be and we have them under contract control for 3-4 years at least.

We can now re-sign Marcus Smart to a fair deal next offseason.

We lost the Brooklyn pick but we don't have to pay IT 30 million x 4 years and we gained the Lakers pick in the Tatum trade.

When Horford's deal is up, we'll have caproom to extend Kyrie and go after another free agent.

We got younger, bigger, and we have a focus on the future.

Danny Ainge= WINNING.
Charlie Sheen winning off season it's been.

We've finally picked a direction which is aiming towards youth and growth to peak when the current masters of the NBA in California and Cleveland are declining or on the back end of their greatness.