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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2017, 10:15:36 AM »

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Can't believe I used to respect these 90ies players.

Now they all come off as a bunch of clueless, fat clowns.
What exactly about this is clueless? Or are you just being a pessimist for the sake of it?

No, I'm being pessimistic because there's every reason to be pessimistic.

This team isn't winning ****. The Warriors will eat our breakfast, steal our lunch money, and when we come home for dinner, they'll be in bed with our mom.

Bon effing appetit.

If you truly believe that "Mr Flat World" will get the same kind of open looks he got while playing with Lebron, you got another thing coming. We just paid another Brooklyn pick to... get the same result we would've gotten without making this deal. Kyrie's nowhere near good enough to put us over the hump.

Misguided competitiveness killed the cat.
Lol at the bolded part, it's enough for a TP. I actually do share your concerns, but luckily we still have some picks that hopefully become quality players to pair with Smart, Brown and Tatum. Also Mr. Flat Earth is young enough to still be in the prime when the warriors age, so we're still in good shape.
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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2017, 10:18:24 AM »

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Can't believe I used to respect these 90ies players.

Now they all come off as a bunch of clueless, fat clowns.
What exactly about this is clueless? Or are you just being a pessimist for the sake of it?

No, I'm being pessimistic because there's every reason to be pessimistic.

This team isn't winning ****. The Warriors will eat our breakfast, steal our lunch money, and when we come home for dinner, they'll be in bed with our mom.

Bon effing appetit.

If you truly believe that "Mr Flat World" will get the same kind of open looks he got while playing with Lebron, you got another thing coming. We just paid another Brooklyn pick to... get the same result we would've gotten without making this deal. Kyrie's nowhere near good enough to put us over the hump.

Misguided competitiveness killed the cat.

Are you doing a parody of a pessimist?
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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2017, 10:21:16 AM »

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Can't believe I used to respect these 90ies players.

Now they all come off as a bunch of clueless, fat clowns.
What exactly about this is clueless? Or are you just being a pessimist for the sake of it?

No, I'm being pessimistic because there's every reason to be pessimistic.

This team isn't winning ****. The Warriors will eat our breakfast, steal our lunch money, and when we come home for dinner, they'll be in bed with our mom.

Bon effing appetit.

If you truly believe that "Mr Flat World" will get the same kind of open looks he got while playing with Lebron, you got another thing coming. We just paid another Brooklyn pick to... get the same result we would've gotten without making this deal. Kyrie's nowhere near good enough to put us over the hump.

Misguided competitiveness killed the cat.
Ah, misguided pessimism, got it.

I think you're underselling the development of our players, our coaching, as well as underselling our acquisitions both through trading and through free agent signing. But if that's what you want to be like, go ahead.
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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2017, 10:21:27 AM »

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Not sure about 10 years, but the C's will be competitive for a long time unless they run into horrible bad luck or mismanagement. And I don't expect the latter from Ainge and this ownership group.

There is too much fatalistic thinking about the Warriors. Keep in mind after the Celtics won the title in '86 and had a lottery pick on the way people expected them to dominate for years. Larry's bad back, McHale's broken foot and Len Bias's overdose changed all that.

To take a more recent example... after the Celtics got waxed in the ECF just a few months ago many of us were thinking we'd never sniff the finals until Lebron retired. In short order reports came out that Lebron would likely leave the Cavs in a year and Kyrie demanded a trade. And voila, the Celtics might now be the favorites in the East.

Point is, don't make assumptions that teams are unbeatable. These things change, sometimes quickly.
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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2017, 10:29:05 AM »

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There is too much fatalistic thinking about the Warriors. Keep in mind after the Celtics won the title in '86 and had a lottery pick on the way people expected them to dominate for years. Larry's bad back, McHale's broken foot and Len Bias's overdose changed all that.

To take a more recent example... after the Celtics got waxed in the ECF just a few months ago many of us were thinking we'd never sniff the finals until Lebron retired. In short order reports came out that Lebron would likely leave the Cavs in a year and Kyrie demanded a trade. And voila, the Celtics might now be the favorites in the East.

Point is, don't make assumptions that teams are unbeatable. These things change, sometimes quickly.
Plus, there is almost always a superteam. Before the warriors it was the Heat with Lebron, Wade and Bosh. Before that, it was the Lakers with Kobe, Bynum and Pau. Before that, it was the KG/Pierce C's for the year before KG got hurt. Before that, it was the Spurs. Before that it was the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. Once this Warriors team fades away it will be someone else.

If you don't have one of those top 3 players and a great team around him, you're always going to be looking up at the team that does. But year to year anything can happen. All the teams before the Warriors have had years where chemistry didn't click, injuries hamstrung them or they just had a bad series in the playoffs. That's where the lesser contenders like the Mavs and Pistons can catch fire and win a championship. I think it's better to try to be that team for the years that you can than to try to wait for the current superstars to get old or superteams to break up when they will be invariably be replaced by the new superstars.

And who knows, maybe Tatum or someone will end up being an MVP caliber player in the NBA and in 5 years we will be that team that looks unbeatable.
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Re: Charles Barkley: Celtics are gonna be contenders for the next 10 years
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2017, 10:33:38 AM »

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I can't understand where the negativity is coming from in this thread... and who would disagree with Barkley's statement anyway?  I think most reasonable basketball fans who look at our recent performance, the hayward signing, growth of our youngsters, and copious future first round picks would all say that we'll be one of the contenders over the next 10-years.

And Barkley never said that if IT can't handle it he shouldn't be out there.  You are remembering incorrectly, but seem to have gotten yourself worked up over something that never happened.

Because people like to argue for the sake of arguing.