IT's Physical

[Eddie20]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

For his 25 million dollar career salary earnings 

Not likely teams will resort to this action

Under what cause of action / legal theory? What are the grounds for relief? What duty did IT breach?

So there's the "official policy," and then there's what actually happens.

Official policy is that any player who refuses to play is subject to disciplinary action, which could be fines, unpaid suspension, or contract termination. Technically, a team could even sue a player for breach of contract if they refused to play.

Why wouldn't Thomas "show up"?

[Boris Badenov]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

For his 25 million dollar career salary earnings 

Not likely teams will resort to this action

Under what cause of action / legal theory? What are the grounds for relief? What duty did IT breach?

So there's the "official policy," and then there's what actually happens.

Official policy is that any player who refuses to play is subject to disciplinary action, which could be fines, unpaid suspension, or contract termination. Technically, a team could even sue a player for breach of contract if they refused to play.

"Refuse" is the operative word here. If a player is hurt, the team can't sue him for "refusing to play."

Where do you get this stuff.

[CelticsElite]

This isn't a "physical" and the trade cannot be voided.


He has already been traded to the cavs. He is seeing a specialist as a member of the cavs. They know what they're getting. IT isn't our problem anymore and they were well aware of ITs hip. What specialists they choose to see is irrelevant to us

This isn't like Jeff greens heart condition either because it was discovered okc hid that from us

[Roy H.]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

For his 25 million dollar career salary earnings 

Not likely teams will resort to this action

Under what cause of action / legal theory? What are the grounds for relief? What duty did IT breach?

So there's the "official policy," and then there's what actually happens.

Official policy is that any player who refuses to play is subject to disciplinary action, which could be fines, unpaid suspension, or contract termination. Technically, a team could even sue a player for breach of contract if they refused to play.

I think I misread your original post. For some reason, I thought you were arguing that if IT failed his physical, the Cavs could sue him. My apologies.  Yes, if he doesn't honor his contract, he can be sued, assuming his contract doesn't require arbitration.

[fairweatherfan]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

As a professional lawologist, technically they'd be suing the hip for breach of contract, age discrimination and things of that nature. But because possession is 9/10 of the law the liability goes to IT himself, unless he has the hip removed, in which case it will be given the electric chair. It's all very basic JuanL stuff.

[Tr1boy]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

For his 25 million dollar career salary earnings 

Not likely teams will resort to this action

Under what cause of action / legal theory? What are the grounds for relief? What duty did IT breach?

So there's the "official policy," and then there's what actually happens.

Official policy is that any player who refuses to play is subject to disciplinary action, which could be fines, unpaid suspension, or contract termination. Technically, a team could even sue a player for breach of contract if they refused to play.

I think I misread your original post. For some reason, I thought you were arguing that if IT failed his physical, the Cavs could sue him. My apologies.  Yes, if he doesn't honor his contract, he can be sued, assuming his contract doesn't require arbitration.

Same here...

Bottom line is OP, passing the physicals not mandatory

Doesnt matter if IT4 cant play again. Trade is complete

[Tr1boy]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Lol. What are they going to sue IT for?

As a professional lawologist, technically they'd be suing the hip for breach of contract, age discrimination and things of that nature. But because possession is 9/10 of the law the liability goes to IT himself, unless he has the hip removed, in which case it will be given the electric chair. It's all very basic JuanL stuff.

 

Look only makes sense to trade IT4 then burn his jerseys and lastly sue the crap out of him because he cant play at peak level bc of a hip injury

IT4 then can get a tear tattoo under his eye

[86MaxwellSmart]

Cavs were more concerned with getting that BK pick, than IT's health.

[Fafnir]

Uh completed trades can be undone after failed physicals. I don't think I've seen reporting that the physicals have been waived.

I have seen reporters comment that they weren't seen as an issue that could unwind the trade. (aka IT isn't the key piece for the Cavs)

[jpotter33]

So let's speculate that IT's hip ends up keeping him out for quite awhile, and once he comes back he's not at the same level due to lessened mobility, speed, and explosiveness.

Would those Celticsbloggers that have a fairly negative view of this trade now feel better about the trade if that set of circumstances came about?

[SHAQATTACK]

Cavs were more concerned with getting that BK pick, than IT's health.

Bingo......thats all they are jumping up and down about.   James might stay ....not because of IT ....because of how the pick might be tradeed to aquire another Star  . Most of the time you need a top 3 or 5 min to get the most trade power.  Pretty much if the pick is 6 or higher , James an't hanging around .   The wiggins pick brought him Love....you know he saw that Lottery and instantly knew that meant they could get a Star to go along with Irving ....and like lightening James was gone.  .   It really needs to be 1-3 to have that ability to suck a team into,a trade and get a player that will satisfy LeWhine enough to remain.

Im sure the goal is to attempt to get PG in order to keep LeWhine there.

Maybe its 1-3 and maybe it won't be . .....

[Vermont Green]

Cavs were more concerned with getting that BK pick, than IT's health.

It is easy to throw that out there but I wouldn't be so sure.  Cleveland is going to want to be competitive in what is very possibly LeBron's last season with them.  I think they want very much to have IT on the court and playing well.  The specialists are going to help them figure out what is the best way to make sure he is healthy for the playoffs.

We as fans don't have all the information of course but between what has been reported and what I have read about the condition, it is chronic.  It is not something that will heal.  He can play but there will be pain.  Playing isn't going to make it worse.  It can be repaired with highly invasive surgery which has good outcomes but not guaranteed.  Cleveland is going to manage the hip to get the most out of it.

It is a tough situation for IT.  I don't know how many more seasons he can nurse this along without having the major surgery.  One more season yes, but then what.  Cleveland will trade for him for that one season but who will sign a long term deal?

[SHAQATTACK]

Cavs were more concerned with getting that BK pick, than IT's health.

It is easy to throw that out there but I wouldn't be so sure.  Cleveland is going to want to be competitive in what is very possibly LeBron's last season with them.  I think they want very much to have IT on the court and playing well.  The specialists are going to help them figure out what is the best way to make sure he is healthy for the playoffs.

We as fans don't have all the information of course but between what has been reported and what I have read about the condition, it is chronic.  It is not something that will heal.  He can play but there will be pain.  Playing isn't going to make it worse.  It can be repaired with highly invasive surgery which has good outcomes but not guaranteed.  Cleveland is going to manage the hip to get the most out of it.

It is a tough situation for IT.  I don't know how many more seasons he can nurse this along without having the major surgery.  One more season yes, but then what.  Cleveland will trade for him for that one season but who will sign a long term deal?

IT is in between a rock and hard place now . 
They need him to score a high level to replace Irving.  Squeezing though 250-300 pound guys nighly .  How to get a brinks truck ( playing spectacular) , being a scoring machine ,  and not getting that hip sore and irritated once again. He could wind up doing more tearing ,  and then it won't be a Brinks truck , but an ambulance he ll see pulling up in his driveway.

If IT can not still be IT we love and know during the playoffs .   Lebron is not beating Celtics and noway beating Houston or GS.    Lebron won't hang the rest of his career on a hurt 5-9'guard or the 6-10 pick either .  The pick needs to be 1-4 and or/ IT healthy as a horse.

[tarheelsxxiii]

The Cavs want IT to go see a hip specialist and have their Dr's check him out. It would be really crazy if this trade is voided.

McHale said teams always waive the physical and let trades go through knowing that rehab will correct an injury. ​IT hasn't played all summer.

...stay tuned.

Trade cant be voided

If IT4 doesnt show up, this is the Cavs problem now

They can remedy the situation by suing IT4, buying him out etc

Triboy dropping legal nuggets!

Lol

[Granath]

So let's speculate that IT's hip ends up keeping him out for quite awhile, and once he comes back he's not at the same level due to lessened mobility, speed, and explosiveness.

Would those Celticsbloggers that have a fairly negative view of this trade now feel better about the trade if that set of circumstances came about?

Fair question, Potter. Yes, I would feel better about the trade if the Cs knew that IT was damaged goods and managed to pawn him off on Cleveland.