Here's what I don't understand regarding the trade

[jbpats]

I think most of us are shocked by this trade, or for me personally the inclusion of Danny's sacred Brooklyn pick. This is what I don't understand.
Why do you overpay for Kyrie, who I believe is better than IT, but only slightly. And pass on Jimmy Butler who could have been had for much less and who in my opinion is better than Kyrie? 

I just don't understand the overpay right now. Kyrie doesn't put us past Golden State, he might not even put us past Cleveland.. and he can walk in two years. No different than Butler, really no different then gambling on giving up scraps for one year of PG13.

The thought behind not trading for Butler was to build for our future because he doesn't move the needle enough right now. How does this trade move the needle that much more to justify losing a potential #1 lottery pick?

Ainge should have sat tight, kept the pick, dangled it at the deadline or at the end of the year for a disgruntled superstar that fills a bigger position of need, and if one isn't available you draft and continue to build for the future while still being competitive. Hell, the dynamic between Kyrie and Lebron could have potentially been so cancerous by the all star break we might have been able to get him for just IT and Crowder.

It just makes no sense.

[Celtics4ever]

Ainge should have sat tight, kept the pick, dangled it at the deadline or at the end of the year for a disgruntled superstar that fills a bigger position of need, and if one isn't available you draft and continue to build for the future while still being competitive. Hell, the dynamic between Kyrie and Lebron could have potentially been so cancerous by the all star break we might have been able to get him for just IT and Crowder.

That has really worked out for us the last few years hoarding picks and team just knocking at our door to get them.   NOT!   People want a king ransom because of our picks.  These supposed trade dead lines have been talked about the last few years and they have not happened for us.

[Eja117]

There's nothing to understand.

Ainge got fleeced unless he knows something about the hip that we don't know

[jbpats]

There's nothing to understand.

Ainge got fleeced unless he knows something about the hip that we don't know

If the hip is a major concern it will be noticed during the physical, I can't imagine Ainge can hide the severity of the injury, that is if it is even severe.

[hodgy03038]

IT could walk after this year if the Celts didn't pony up a max type deal. As much as I hate giving up the BKN pick I think he had to do it for the 18 pick rather than Tatum. This deal I think makes us better immediately and if the Cavs went with Bledsoe & Josh Jackson & more that could have been worse for us to try to overcome.

[cltc5]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

[Eja117]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

I like it for Cleveland because I have common sense

[BostonClamCrowdah]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

I like it for Cleveland because I have common sense

You're 12 and don't understand the NBA then

[droopdog7]

To start, your assumptions are invalid.  Kyrie is significantly more valuable than IT, and very likely significantly better right now.  He's younger, has more time left in his deal, and doesn't have the defensive questions surrounding him largely because of his size.  Not calling him a great defender but IT was a walking mismatch in the wrong direction.  His metrics were polarizing around here but there was likely some truth to them.  We were as good or better with him off the floor.  And of course, there were the questions about his contract next year. 

As for the pick, it's a crapshoot.  Odds are very hight that the player won't be as good as kyrie.  Shoot, odds are that brown, Tatum, and that Brooklyn pick out together won't be as good as kyrie.  Stars move the needle and we got a legit star who's 25 and already a four time all-star!

[cltc5]

Kyrie is a pass first pg.  IT is not.  Hayward and the development of our young talent was a risk here holding onto Isaiah.  And Thomas will not lift us into the finals.  Kyrie will.

[Smokeeye123]

I think most of us are shocked by this trade, or for me personally the inclusion of Danny's sacred Brooklyn pick. This is what I don't understand.
Why do you overpay for Kyrie, who I believe is better than IT, but only slightly. And pass on Jimmy Butler who could have been had for much less and who in my opinion is better than Kyrie? 

I just don't understand the overpay right now. Kyrie doesn't put us past Golden State, he might not even put us past Cleveland.. and he can walk in two years. No different than Butler, really no different then gambling on giving up scraps for one year of PG13.

The thought behind not trading for Butler was to build for our future because he doesn't move the needle enough right now. How does this trade move the needle that much more to justify losing a potential #1 lottery pick?

Ainge should have sat tight, kept the pick, dangled it at the deadline or at the end of the year for a disgruntled superstar that fills a bigger position of need, and if one isn't available you draft and continue to build for the future while still being competitive. Hell, the dynamic between Kyrie and Lebron could have potentially been so cancerous by the all star break we might have been able to get him for just IT and Crowder.

It just makes no sense.

Kyrie is better than Butler and we have 89 forwards on the roster as it is.

[Smokeeye123]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

I like it for Cleveland because I have common sense

You like giving a 29yr old 5'8 PG coming off a major hip injury a max contract?

[Eja117]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

I like it for Cleveland because I have common sense

You're 12 and don't understand the NBA then

Sure I am. Sure I don't

[Eja117]

Anyone that doesn't like this move is straight dumb.

I like it for Cleveland because I have common sense

You like giving a 29yr old 5'8 PG coming off a major hip injury a max contract?

He didn't need surgery and isn't the cancer nor the injury machine Irving is. 

I realize some of the Celtics staff that lurk here want me to say this is a great trade but I won't because it's puke. They made a puke trade till we see otherwise

[jbpats]

I think most of us are shocked by this trade, or for me personally the inclusion of Danny's sacred Brooklyn pick. This is what I don't understand.
Why do you overpay for Kyrie, who I believe is better than IT, but only slightly. And pass on Jimmy Butler who could have been had for much less and who in my opinion is better than Kyrie? 

I just don't understand the overpay right now. Kyrie doesn't put us past Golden State, he might not even put us past Cleveland.. and he can walk in two years. No different than Butler, really no different then gambling on giving up scraps for one year of PG13.

The thought behind not trading for Butler was to build for our future because he doesn't move the needle enough right now. How does this trade move the needle that much more to justify losing a potential #1 lottery pick?

Ainge should have sat tight, kept the pick, dangled it at the deadline or at the end of the year for a disgruntled superstar that fills a bigger position of need, and if one isn't available you draft and continue to build for the future while still being competitive. Hell, the dynamic between Kyrie and Lebron could have potentially been so cancerous by the all star break we might have been able to get him for just IT and Crowder.

It just makes no sense.

Kyrie is better than Butler and we have 89 forwards on the roster as it is.

Butler is a much better two way player, with no history of major injury. He also plays the 2.. so not sure how it impacts our forward situation.