ShamWow: Celtics + Cavs actively talking Kyrie/IT swap (UPDATE: Deal Done Did)

[BostonClamCrowdah]

ESPN says the pick is unprotected. We got hosed.

What if that pick is a dud? More likely than not

[Jonny CC]

I can understand some of the sentimental feelings about IT by don't kid yourself....if IT hit free agency and a different team offered a max deal but the Cs didn't...he would have walked.  So, if Danny doesn't think that IT is a max player (which he isn't), then he has to do this deal.   All day, every day.

[manl_lui]

does Danny feel the Nets will do better than the Lakers while the Lakers still miss out on the #1 pick

[jpotter33]

Two things:


1) The ceiling for the team over the next 5 years, assuming we re-sign Kyrie, just got higher.

2) The team just got a lot less likable in the short term.  Perhaps Kyrie will end up a beloved Celtic.


Isaiah Thomas is one of my favorite players whose been in green since I became a fan.  Period.

I'm not sure where this vitriol for Kyrie is coming from. Sure, he gets iso-heavy at times, but he's proven to be unstoppable at times in three separate playoffs now. And he can actually play D when asked, which is more than can be said about IT.

He was also easily the most likable player on that Cleveland team.

Now, that doesn't mean I think this is a great trade. It's a pretty substantial overpay if there's no protection on the Brooklyn pick. However, I do think we're probably a better team for a longer overall time with Kyrie than we were with IT.

All that we can know for sure is this - OPENING NIGHT IS GOING TO BE LIT! Hopefully IT is still recovering from his hip injury at that time, because I could see him going off in a revenge game against us. I can also see Kyrie going for 50 that night in his first night back in the Q lol

I just think Kyrie is a guy who does his aggressive iso thing no matter what the circumstances are.  Sometimes he's hot and it works great other times it feels like he's jacking shots and ignoring the fact that he has teammates.

Maybe it'll be different under Brad.

Well, apparently he wanted to play for Brad, so hopefully he can get him more team-oriented. He turned IT into a more team-oriented player, so perhaps he can do the same with Kyrie.

[Tr1boy]

Irving apparently agreed to waive his trade kicker, too.

this is how much he wanted to leave Cleveland

Griffin was right all along....  Irving had Celtics as one of the teams he wouldn't mind being traded to....to play under CBS  (not play under Lue who is ultimately Lebrons puppet)

Kyrie dad also played for Boston University...so he knows the city

[BringToughnessBack]

so does this mean our rebounding solution is gone again! Lol...All I want for Christmas is a tall center that rebounds. Zizic could turn out to be very good.

[GratefulCs]

IT's points per game is about to take a bit of a dip

maybe no max for him?

[Snakehead]

Kyrie is going to get paid less after extended and can be much better on defense if he commits.  We can still get a top pick via the Lakers.  Things will be okay.

I just don't understand why the Lakers pick wasn't in the deal instead of the Brooklyn pick. It's of fairly similar value as the Brooklyn pick.

I still think there has to be a top-1 protection on the pick with us giving them the LA pick if the Brooklyn pick doesn't convey.

I hope so as well but we will see.  Have seen in some recent talk like this the protection info be way behind the rest.

The good news though is that yeah the Lakers pick could be great next year.

[footey]

I give Danny this:

He is one cold blooded dude.

After the year IT had, to see him traded like that just shocks me.

Never thought I'd see this.

[ETNCeltics]

ESPN says the pick is unprotected. We got hosed.

What if that pick is a dud? More likely than not

I don't buy that for a second. BRK is a bottom 4 or 5 team. Possible it winds up mid-lottery, but IMO, that's a top 5 pick and we'll regret not having it unless we hit on the LAL pick.

[Tr1boy]

does Danny feel the Nets will do better than the Lakers while the Lakers still miss out on the #1 pick

of course

Nets added some good pieces in the off season

Lakers are a NBDL team...even lost Nick Young

plus even by some miracle they are not a bottom 5 team...pick turns into a 2019 kings 1st

[PhoSita]

If the Celts don't make the Finals anytime in the next few years, this trade is a major fail.

If we're gonna finish second in the East to LeBron or whoever, I'd rather do so with Thomas as the guy than Kyrie.

Trading the heart of the franchise for a Drake look-alike with a mean crossover only works for me if it results in something we couldn't accomplish before.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

does Danny feel the Nets will do better than the Lakers while the Lakers still miss out on the #1 pick

It could be that, or he thinks Jayson Tatum would be a superstar that its worth losing a valuable pick. Or he thinks Kyrie could be better than we know of him.

I'm hoping any of those three are right, as of now, it looks like a massive overpay.

[BringToughnessBack]

can we get rid of Brooklyn tank watch thread?! I want them to win about 35 now. Time to order a voodoo lakers doll as well.

[Roy H.]

Hey, the good news is we'll probably see either IT or the Celts in the Finals next year.

Yeah, I'll always root for IT.

Cleveland is a better team than they were yesterday, and this may keep Lebron in Cleveland.

I mean, that BRK pick can be combined with their junk contracts to being back another superstar, if that's the root they go. They could end the season with four legit stars.