Celtics sign Nader

[Big333223]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

Wait. You're trying to tell me your main job isn't Celtics salary capologist???

As a community, we should start a kickstarter to fund a salary for saltlover so he can quit his job and do this full time.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Do we not think that Semi would sign a two way deal?  I almost wish we could get him to defer a year and sign in a really competitive international league like Spain.  He's going to be lost in our depth chart.

The good news though is that the East is so weak this year, our young ones will probably get a lot of time in blow outs.

[saltlover]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

Wait. You're trying to tell me your main job isn't Celtics salary capologist???

As a community, we should start a kickstarter to fund a salary for saltlover so he can quit his job and do this full time.

Haha.  Luckily my current job has given me a very slow computer for a position that requires a fair amount of data work, so I sometimes hit a button and wait 20 minutes, letting me be a capologist in the meantime.

[saltlover]

Do we not think that Semi would sign a two way deal?  I almost wish we could get him to defer a year and sign in a really competitive international league like Spain.  He's going to be lost in our depth chart.

The good news though is that the East is so weak this year, our young ones will probably get a lot of time in blow outs.

I personally don't think he will sign a 2-way deal, which is I did not rank that a very high likelihood.  On the other hand, if we create room for him by moving Jackson, and bring on Yabusele also, we would have SIX rookies this season, which seems a bit absurd for a team that at a minimum has designs on a deep playoff run.

Tatum
Zizic
Nader
Ojeleye
Yabusele
Theis

I grant I have been stating for months that 4-6 rookies was highly likely, but it still seems a bit nutty.  My hope is they're finding a place overseas for Yabusele for 2-3 seasons.

[PAOBoston]

Do we not think that Semi would sign a two way deal?  I almost wish we could get him to defer a year and sign in a really competitive international league like Spain.  He's going to be lost in our depth chart.

The good news though is that the East is so weak this year, our young ones will probably get a lot of time in blow outs.

I personally don't think he will sign a 2-way deal, which is I did not rank that a very high likelihood.  On the other hand, if we create room for him by moving Jackson, and bring on Yabusele also, we would have SIX rookies this season, which seems a bit absurd for a team that at a minimum has designs on a deep playoff run.

Tatum
Zizic
Nader
Ojeleye
Yabusele
Theis

I grant I have been stating for months that 4-6 rookies was highly likely, but it still seems a bit nutty.  My hope is they're finding a place overseas for Yabusele for 2-3 seasons.

This had been a thoughtbof mine as well. Should we have a rash of injuries to our veteran starters, it might get ugly with all these rookies. That being said, between Horford/IT/Hayward/Crowder/Smart there should be enough veterans to bring the young guys along. Worst case they sign a vet FA during the season I'd they see the rookies are adapting well.

[BitterJim]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

Wait. You're trying to tell me your main job isn't Celtics salary capologist???

As a community, we should start a kickstarter to fund a salary for saltlover so he can quit his job and do this full time.

Haha.  Luckily my current job has given me a very slow computer for a position that requires a fair amount of data work, so I sometimes hit a button and wait 20 minutes, letting me be a capologist in the meantime.

Wait, is posting here your job? That part sounds awfully familiar...

[saltlover]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

Wait. You're trying to tell me your main job isn't Celtics salary capologist???

As a community, we should start a kickstarter to fund a salary for saltlover so he can quit his job and do this full time.

Haha.  Luckily my current job has given me a very slow computer for a position that requires a fair amount of data work, so I sometimes hit a button and wait 20 minutes, letting me be a capologist in the meantime.

Wait, is posting here your job? That part sounds awfully familiar...

LOL

[jambr380]

Good for Nader - I am not sure what the future holds for him as a Celtic, but he showed that hard work and dedication does pay off. Happy the Cs were able to reward him.

As for the Yab/Semi talk, I would personally rather Yabusele remain overseas while we bring in Semi. These two seem a bit too similar to be rookies for my taste and since Semi is a little older, he may be able to help earlier. It would also push Yabusele's rookie contract start date back a year, as well as give him some much needed experience (presumably in Europe instead of China).

[footey]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

I thought Yabu on roster was a done deal. Nader signing alter that view?

[bellerephon]

There is a cap hold for the amount of Yabu's deal, so they have room to sign him if they choose. If they stash him again that would free up the amount of the cap hold which presumably they would use to sign someone.

[saltlover]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

I thought Yabu on roster was a done deal. Nader signing alter that view?

It does alter that view slightly.  They've already three rookies. If we assume that Theis is a lock, which seems to be a safer assumption than Yabusele, given that the German Basketball Federation has put out a press release congratulating him, he'll a) be a fourth rookie and more importantly b) be the 14th roster spot.  This means in order for both Semi and Yab to be on the roster, someone (likely Jackson) needs to be moved, or only one can be signed for next year (unless we're willing to make a training camp cut or trade.)

[saltlover]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

EDIT:  I forgot that Jackson's contract has essentially guaranteed fully (does officially tomorrow, but he can't clear waivers by then), so stretching is no longer an option.  Thus number 3 is out.

[BitterJim]

Saltlover, where does that put us $ wise (assuming Yabu is signed)?

I'm at work, but I assume they've used the remaining cap room to sign Nader.  This would mean one of a few things in terms of Semi:

1) Yabu will stay overseas
2) Semi will sign a two-year minimum salary deal and a training camp battle will determine who makes the roster between Semi, Jackson, and Theis (presumably those three would be at the end).
3) They waive and stretch Jackson and sign Semi to a deal similar to Nader's.
4) They trade Jackson and sign Semi to a deal that has a first year salary up to the amount of Jackson's salary this year ($1.38 million).
5) Semi signs a two-way contract (not excluding with number 2).
6) Semi will stay overseas or sign a Maine contract.

I personally think number 1 or 4 is the most plausible, followed by number 3.

EDIT:  I forgot that Jackson's contract has essentially guaranteed fully (does officially tomorrow, but he can't clear waivers by then), so stretching is no longer an option.  Thus number 3 is out.

According to Jared Weiss, Jackson will be waived to make room for Semi

With @ShamsCharania report of signing Angel Nader, Demetrius Jackson will be eventually waived to make room for Semi Ojeleye.

Not sure if that's just speculation, though.  His next tweet seems to indicate that it would be a 2 year deal.

Expectation around Semi Ojeleye is a two-year minimum per league source. Depends on what happens with Jackson.

That makes me think we won't waive Jackson now, but will wait until training camp to make a decision

[Granath]

Do we not think that Semi would sign a two way deal?  I almost wish we could get him to defer a year and sign in a really competitive international league like Spain.  He's going to be lost in our depth chart.

The good news though is that the East is so weak this year, our young ones will probably get a lot of time in blow outs.

I personally don't think he will sign a 2-way deal, which is I did not rank that a very high likelihood.  On the other hand, if we create room for him by moving Jackson, and bring on Yabusele also, we would have SIX rookies this season, which seems a bit absurd for a team that at a minimum has designs on a deep playoff run.

Tatum
Zizic
Nader
Ojeleye
Yabusele
Theis

I grant I have been stating for months that 4-6 rookies was highly likely, but it still seems a bit nutty.  My hope is they're finding a place overseas for Yabusele for 2-3 seasons.

I actually don't have a big issue with this. It does seem a bit risky but it may not be as bad as we might think.

- Tatum is a blue-chip prospect who is already very polished on the offensive end of the court.
- Zizc has been playing professional ball in Europe for a while now.
- Nader will be 24 when the season starts, has 4 years of college ball and 1 in the D-League.
- Semi is 22, has impressed the coaches and had 3 years in college.
- Theis is 25 and has been playing professional ball for 5 years now.
- Yabusele, well...he is pretty raw.

There's no doubt that these guys will need to learn to play NBA ball. But these guys will go day in and day out in practice against a very strong, deep lineup and they'll learn quickly. Most of these guys have a fair amount of solid experience at very high levels. Two of these guys are over 24 and even the younger guys have pretty mature physical attributes.

This may cause Brad to go with a short bench for the first few weeks of the season but it seems to me this crop of rookies are perhaps a bit more polished and a bit more physically mature than the average group. It's still a risk but I think it's part of Danny's plan to be in an optimal position to contend - not just compete - in a 2018-2020 window.

[Boise To Boston]

Keep Semi, let DJax go.

How does the 2-way contract work...anyone know?

I agree - sign Semi!

2-way means the player is assigned to the d-league at a d-league salary, but can get called up for something like 40 days at a pro-rated NBA salary.