SI.com: Danny's summer was a flop, second worst among "notable" teams

[tankcity!]

It's fair to criticize Ainge on George. IMO I think Ainge messed up on the trade negotiations. However, even with that screw up which is debatable since nobody truly knows what happened. The worst the Celtics deserve is a B imo. C doesn't make sesne to me. We're definitely better. Seems like Marcus Morris is underrated and Bradley is a little overrated. We only had him for one year and he is injury prone. Morris is a starting caliber player.

[Eddie20]

I agreed with Roy a month ago when he said he would be very happy with Hayward and Fultz in the off season. Fultz turned into Tatum and IMO seems like just a good of a guess when predicting 19 year old kids.

I'm not too disappointed with Tatum. Can't really tell at this age. The proof will be in the pudding, and Ainge just put a lot more pressure on our pudding by trading out of the top spot to get him.

The team did improve because, in fairness, it was hard not to given our situation. That doesn't necessarily mean we had a great offseason. I'm sure our aspirations were bigger, including but not limited to getting Paul George, not having to trade Bradley, and once we had to -- perhaps finding a better deal.

Again, no one has graded this season a failure. But it's most certainly a mixed bag. Giving a gigantic contract to an oft-injured dude with one great season under his belt is not exactly a  clear-cut win.

Wait are you referencing Hayward with this? He hasn't missed more than 10 games in a year since 2012 and has improved his scoring every single season.

He's also never played more than 80, and seems to invariably miss 5-10 games on average each season. I know some people don't care about this, but to me it's not a good indicator.

I'm really surprised, Koz. You're negativity is usually backed by substance. You sure backed your way into a corner on this one.

[Celtics4ever]

Who reads SI except for the swimsuit issues?

[Denis998]

Solved the mystery. The idiot that wrote this is from DC

[Bostonborn62]

Hey Tarheelsxxiii, dope slap that Uncle of yours for all of us when you see him.Thanks, we'll be waiting your reply.

[BitterJim]

Who reads SI except for the swimsuit issues?

Who reads the swimsuit issues?

[celticsclay]

I agreed with Roy a month ago when he said he would be very happy with Hayward and Fultz in the off season. Fultz turned into Tatum and IMO seems like just a good of a guess when predicting 19 year old kids.

I'm not too disappointed with Tatum. Can't really tell at this age. The proof will be in the pudding, and Ainge just put a lot more pressure on our pudding by trading out of the top spot to get him.

The team did improve because, in fairness, it was hard not to given our situation. That doesn't necessarily mean we had a great offseason. I'm sure our aspirations were bigger, including but not limited to getting Paul George, not having to trade Bradley, and once we had to -- perhaps finding a better deal.

Again, no one has graded this season a failure. But it's most certainly a mixed bag. Giving a gigantic contract to an oft-injured dude with one great season under his belt is not exactly a  clear-cut win.

Wait are you referencing Hayward with this? He hasn't missed more than 10 games in a year since 2012 and has improved his scoring every single season.

He's also never played more than 80, and seems to invariably miss 5-10 games on average each season. I know some people don't care about this, but to me it's not a good indicator.

Lol you realize just about every player in the league misses a few games for rest in the modern NBA so your 80 is a really bizarre indicator for "oft-injured"
His last 4 seasons were 77, 76, 80 and 73 games.
The Celtics had one player play 80 games last year (Amir Johnson)
By your definition literally 90% of the NBA would be "oft-injured" for missing 20 games across 4 years with several of them for end of season rest. I mean... come on...

[cousytoheinsohn]

Haaahahhhaaaaahhhaaa

What hack wrote THAT trash...

 His name is Andrew Sharp, should change that to Manny Moron.

Andrew wasn't very Sharp when he wrote the article.

[Ilikesports17]

S/o to Koz for criticizing Hayward for never playing more than 80 games in a regular season...

Dude has missed: 10, 0, 10, 5, 6, 2, and 9 games in his career.

This blog man...

More than 80 games is a ridiculously stupid bar. Lebron James hasn't played more than 80 games since he was 24 and that was the only time in his career that he did it.

[BringToughnessBack]

just checked calendar, nope not April 1st. Yes Bulls are A but we are second worst! HaHaHa!!

[celticsclay]

S/o to Koz for criticizing Hayward for never playing more than 80 games in a regular season...

Dude has missed: 10, 0, 10, 5, 6, 2, and 9 games in his career.

This blog man...

More than 80 games is a ridiculously stupid bar. Lebron James hasn't played more than 80 games since he was 24 and that was the only time in his career that he did it.

Yes and some of Hayward's games were actually for rest just like most teams do at the end of the season. Absolutely bizarre....

[bdm860]

S/o to Koz for criticizing Hayward for never playing more than 80 games in a regular season...

Dude has missed: 10, 0, 10, 5, 6, 2, and 9 games in his career.

This blog man...

More than 80 games is a ridiculously stupid bar. Lebron James hasn't played more than 80 games since he was 24 and that was the only time in his career that he did it.

Yes and some of Hayward's games were actually for rest just like most teams do at the end of the season. Absolutely bizarre....

To attach some numbers to this:

There's 43 active NBA players (includes Chris Bosh), who have been in the league since 2011 and played in at least 1 All Star Game.  Hayward has played the 6th most games.

[Boris Badenov]

S/o to Koz for criticizing Hayward for never playing more than 80 games in a regular season...

Dude has missed: 10, 0, 10, 5, 6, 2, and 9 games in his career.

This blog man...

More than 80 games is a ridiculously stupid bar. Lebron James hasn't played more than 80 games since he was 24 and that was the only time in his career that he did it.

He's quoted the same number about Hayward before, gotten the same response, and has chosen to post it again.

I don't like Griffin's value proposition: near-max deal for an injury prone player approaching his 30's who is dependent on his athleticism/leaping ability. I'm not psyched about George for this team either (I think we should build for the future), but Griffin has DNP written all over him. I don't want to cash in on our flexibility for Griffin.

But you're ok with 75-games-a-season Hayward then? Odd.

Has it escaped your notice that almost every nba start misses 5 or 10 games a year, even those who stay generally healthy?

It's nonsense and trolling, and none of us need to pay attention to it. Koz is LarBrd33 without the wit and substance.

[celticsclay]

S/o to Koz for criticizing Hayward for never playing more than 80 games in a regular season...

Dude has missed: 10, 0, 10, 5, 6, 2, and 9 games in his career.

This blog man...

More than 80 games is a ridiculously stupid bar. Lebron James hasn't played more than 80 games since he was 24 and that was the only time in his career that he did it.

He's quoted the same number about Hayward before, gotten the same response, and has chosen to post it again.

I don't like Griffin's value proposition: near-max deal for an injury prone player approaching his 30's who is dependent on his athleticism/leaping ability. I'm not psyched about George for this team either (I think we should build for the future), but Griffin has DNP written all over him. I don't want to cash in on our flexibility for Griffin.

But you're ok with 75-games-a-season Hayward then? Odd.

Has it escaped your notice that almost every nba start misses 5 or 10 games a year, even those who stay generally healthy?

It's nonsense and trolling, and none of us need to pay attention to it. Koz is LarBrd33 without the wit and substance.

I don't notice Koz doing ridiculous takes all that often, but this one makes no sense to me. The game is changing and players have better careers and last longer with a few games of rest here and there.

[Chief Macho]

I disagree but its fair to say if you were looking for a team that would take a real step forward next season you could be underwhelmed.   Ultimately I think this team doesn't do much more than last years team.  I dunno,  Haywards an upgrade but losing Bradley negates that some I'm somewhat disappointed in not getting another piece.