Semi vs Yabu, should we keep Yabu overseas ?

[Surferdad]

Yabu has the size we need ,  a real,bulldozer with quick feet and outside jumper . 

Im down with waiting out Yabu .  He gives us more of what we need up front

What waiting out?

[Somebody]

why not both? They'll be our 3rd stringers and will pick up valuable experience in practice with Horford and other vets. We can fit both into our cap too.

[colincb]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

[feckless]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

[Chris22]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

Zizic is terrible. A wasted pick.
I hope we can find someone better.

[Celtics4ever]

Yabu has the size we need ,

The guy is built like a bull, but he is only 6-8 that is not even remotely elite size.   Another tweener thus far.

Everything I have read has said he will be on the team this year.

[Bobshot]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

I don't think Zeller fits into their scheme. Zizic won't make the team from what he has shown so far. He doesn't look ready. Semi and probably Nader will make the team. Yabu we haven't seen yet. Theis is under contract.

Ainge wants more toughness, athleticism and versatility up front. He got that in MM.  What he's probably looking for now is a similar big who is a bit bigger than MM. More of a 4-5. Somebody who can rebound more.

I should add I wouldn't be surprised if Tatum winds up starting at the 4--from what he's shown. They probably would prefer to bring him along more slowly, but he seems to be mature beyond his years, and can shoot, pass and rebound.

[Sophomore]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

I don't think Zeller fits into their scheme. Zizic won't make the team from what he has shown so far. He doesn't look ready. Semi and probably Nader will make the team. Yabu we haven't seen yet. Theis is under contract.

Ainge wants more toughness, athleticism and versatility up front. He got that in MM.  What he's probably looking for now is a similar big who is a bit bigger than MM. More of a 4-5. Somebody who can rebound more.

I should add I wouldn't be surprised if Tatum winds up starting at the 4--from what he's shown. They probably would prefer to bring him along more slowly, but he seems to be mature beyond his years, and can shoot, pass and rebound.

Going to be fascinating watching Tatum against real league competition, that's for sure. Just re-watched his spin move into a step-back fadeaway over Kuzma. Wow. It's not totally on the nose, but I thought - this is what Tim Duncan might have looked like at 19 if he was 6'9". Great footwork, unhurried and under control, always has a plan, such a soft touch. He's the almost-big fundamental.

[BitterJim]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

Probably because we needed his $8 million off the books to sign Hayward

[colincb]

Zizic is under contract. I'd be shocked if he doesn't make the team and I would discount his summer league performance too.

http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-jayson-tatum-ante-zizic

Rookie bigs generally don't look great in summer league for many reasons including that players trying to make plays takes a back seat to players trying to make teams. In our case, our point guards were particularly undistinguished, to be charitable, which led to Tatum, and Nader both dominating the ball at times. I know that the coaches were happy with what Zizic had shown in practice, so we'll see what happens when we have PGs on the floor who can feed him when they should.

[BitterJim]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

I don't think Zeller fits into their scheme. Zizic won't make the team from what he has shown so far. He doesn't look ready. Semi and probably Nader will make the team. Yabu we haven't seen yet. Theis is under contract.

Ainge wants more toughness, athleticism and versatility up front. He got that in MM.  What he's probably looking for now is a similar big who is a bit bigger than MM. More of a 4-5. Somebody who can rebound more.

I should add I wouldn't be surprised if Tatum winds up starting at the 4--from what he's shown. They probably would prefer to bring him along more slowly, but he seems to be mature beyond his years, and can shoot, pass and rebound.

He will make the team, because we already signed him

Having a rough summer league doesn't suddenly make him a horrible prospect

[colincb]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

Probably because we needed his $8 million off the books to sign Hayward

We likely will have an open slot for a player, so Zeller could conceivably be re-signed at a lower contract number. I suspect not, however.

[mctyson]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

Zizic is terrible. A wasted pick.
I hope we can find someone better.

You will be proven very wrong I predict.

[RockinRyA]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

Zizic is terrible. A wasted pick.
I hope we can find someone better.

Its not even Training camp and you are saying someone is a bust?!

[hwangjini_1]

1   Brown
2   Crowder
3   Hayward
4   Horford
5   Morris
6   Nader
7   Ojeleye
8   Rozier
9   Smart
10   Tatum
11   Theis
12   Thomas
13   Yabusele
14   Zizic
15   Player to be determined

You can have both.

Semi is outplaying Nader and Zizic makes you wonder why we let Zeller go--Zizic is just not close to being ready to be of use this year.

please forgive a bit of a thread highjack here.

first, people seem to be forecasting about zizic based upon the summer league. this is very, very rarely a wise decision. let me once more float the radical idea that we should wait and see before passing final judgements on zizic. 

next, sometimes big men take time to develop. just to jog the memory of everyone, here are some early career stats for the celitcs' very own perk.

PERKINS
Age  MP  Pts/g   rb/g   blk/g   FT%
19    3.5   2.2    1.4    0.2    66.7%
20    9.1   2.5    2.9   0.6     63.8%
21   19.6  5.2    5.9   1.5     61.5%

perk absolutely sucked eggs until he was 21. and at 21 he would probably not be called, by a number of posters on this board today, a valuable rotation player.

for comparison, here are euro league numbers for zizic

ZIZIC
Age     MP  Pts/g   rb/g   blk/g   FT%
19/20  22     9      6.7    0.8   64.3%

yes, i am willing to wait a while and see how zizic turns out. he may be nothing, or he may be perk, or he may be steve adams, or he may be something altogether different.

i advocate we all be patient on zizic and not use summer league as the basis of our thoughts on him....radical poster that i am.