NBA Exec on trade - "Not highway robbery, but it's close"

[moiso]

Jordan Schultz‏ Verified account
@Schultz_Report
Asked an NBA exec for his opinion on Philly-Boston trade. His answer: "That's Danny [Ainge] for you. Not a highway robbery, but it's close."

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Genera idea is that #celtics continue to acquire more picks
-- not merely the one extra from this trade. Are there ever 2 many picks tho?

Granted I love Fultz for Philly, but C's still win this deal, at least in current iteration. Move down 2 spots and just acquire more picks.

My take: coin flip as to who is better between fultz, Jackson and ball. Boston still gets one of those three, plus maybe future top 6 pick

Pretty much as I see it. Many fans seems to love the allure of having the #1 pick more than the actual player they would be getting.

Does this writer cover a lot of football, baseball, and hockey? In the NBA, "moving down 2 spots" is the difference between drafting Jeff Green instead of Kevin Durant. This is not a league where you win with quantity over quality.

What a pile.

Or it could be the difference between drafting Chris Bosh instead of Darko Millicic. Every draft is different.

Looks like it's more of a Bosh, Wade, Carmelo decision in Ainge's eyes.

[KGs Knee]

My guess is the Sacramento pick is protected in Boston's favor.  Meaning if we don't get the Lakers pick, and the Sacramento pick falls outside of the lottery we get the Sacramento pick and an additional 1st from Philly.

[footey]

Guys be happy, Josh Jackson would have been a great pick in the 1990's when shooting and character didn't matter.

At least he hit .566% from the FT line!

Too bad you didn't watch him play last season. You wouldn't end up looking foolish with that remark.

[GreenFaith1819]

I trust Danny.

That is all .

I wish Fultz well (but not against BOS).

Looking forward to this team's current and future success and whomever else we bring in here.

Truly exciting times to be a Celtics Fan.

[tonydelk]

Having the top pick doesn't guarantee you the best player.  This is not a draft where there is a lebron james or Kevin Durant.  This draft to me is close on talent of the 2010 draft.  So many good players in top 10.  There have not been many drafts in the last 10 years that have generational talents.  Most of the drafts the best player was not picked at 1.  This draft is just the same.  No generational talent but deep.  The best player will most likely not be Fultz.  Danny knows this.  Brad knows this.  Next year has that potential to have multiple generational talent type players and that is why this move was made.  I trust the scouting of the celtics and if they feel the best player is not Fultz and they can walk away with the best player in this draft and a future asset they I trust them.  They could be wrong but if you look below a lot of teams were with the picks they made.

2009 - Blake 1, Harden 3, Curry 7

2010 - Wall 1, turner 2, favors 3, Cousins 5, Hayward 9, George 10,

2011 - Kyrie 1, dwill 2, kanter 3, klay 11, kawai 15, jimmy butler 30.  Kawai is the best in the draft with Klay and Jimmy Butler close to Kyrie

2012 - Take out the generational talent of AD and the next 3 are MKG, Beal, Waiters.  Lillard went 6 who outside of AD is the best pick, drummand 9

2013 - Bennett 1, dipo 2, porter 3, mccollum 10. greek freak 15 who is by far best pick. gobert 27

2014 - Wiggens 1, Parker 2, Embid 3 which may be the best player in this draft, nurkik 16

[footey]

The entire offense went through Fultz and he went from a likely lottery pick before the season, to the #1 overall pick as large part of those individual accomplishments

Chad Ford had Fultz #1 in August 2016, before any "individual accomplishments".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aseaofblue.com/platform/amp/2016/8/23/12613618/nba-mock-draft-2017-chad-ford-1-0

He jumped up following the Nike games I believe.

[vjcsmoke]

I agree that the return isn't enough.  We should have gotten BOTH the Lakers and Kings picks in return.  And the protection on the Lakers pick is just insult to injury.  If the Lakers win the lottery next year, then the Sixers are sitting pretty and we have egg on our face.  A LOT OF EGG!!!

[kozlodoev]

2014 - Wiggens 1, Parker 2, Embid 3, nurkik 16 which may be the best in this draft.

If you think Nurkic will be the best player in this draft... well, it's kind of humorous

[footey]

The entire offense went through Fultz and he went from a likely lottery pick before the season, to the #1 overall pick as large part of those individual accomplishments

Chad Ford had Fultz #1 in August 2016, before any "individual accomplishments".

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/4z8wbj/chad_fords_mock_draft_10_2017/

I value Ball/Jackson closer to Fultz than you. Will find out in a few years who was right.

If so, then it was after his performance during the summer. Because Giles was far and away the #1 pick until the injures. In fact, for a long time Giles and Jackson #1 and #2.

Regardless, you edited the rest of my post. Again, you were hellbent against the KG/Pierce trade when it happened. That's why it's best to be patient in passing judgement without knowing where future picks will land and who we draft. For example, if Bagley Jr. were eligible and I would be willing to bet anything that he would be the #1 pick and we don't make the deal.

Does it matter if I was wrong on the KG / Pierce trade? Is your track record perfect? Is Danny's?

I think trading a consensus #1 for two lesser pieces is a bad idea.

This feels like trading Kyrie for Michael Kidd Gilchrist and Enes Kanter.

But, going forward, is it fair to say that you won't be commenting on trades until 2+ years out?

[Casperian]

My guess is the Sacramento pick is protected in Boston's favor.  Meaning if we don't get the Lakers pick, and the Sacramento pick falls outside of the lottery we get the Sacramento pick and an additional 1st from Philly.

Woohoo, more nothing, because 2 x 0 is double the fun...

[tonydelk]

2014 - Wiggens 1, Parker 2, Embid 3, nurkik 16 which may be the best in this draft.

If you think Nurkic will be the best player in this draft... well, it's kind of humorous

Yeah sorry.  I thought I wrote that after Embid.  Typing quickly.

[kozlodoev]

2014 - Wiggens 1, Parker 2, Embid 3, nurkik 16 which may be the best in this draft.

If you think Nurkic will be the best player in this draft... well, it's kind of humorous

Yeah sorry.  I thought I wrote that after Embid.  Typing quickly.

Yes, that makes more sense

Wiggins will still likely be better though. Especially since Embiid might or might not stay in one piece.

[Big333223]

Jordan Schultz‏ Verified account
@Schultz_Report
Asked an NBA exec for his opinion on Philly-Boston trade. His answer: "That's Danny [Ainge] for you. Not a highway robbery, but it's close."

Jordan Schultz Retweeted Jordan Schultz
Genera idea is that #celtics continue to acquire more picks
-- not merely the one extra from this trade. Are there ever 2 many picks tho?

Granted I love Fultz for Philly, but C's still win this deal, at least in current iteration. Move down 2 spots and just acquire more picks.

My take: coin flip as to who is better between fultz, Jackson and ball. Boston still gets one of those three, plus maybe future top 6 pick

Pretty much as I see it. Many fans seems to love the allure of having the #1 pick more than the actual player they would be getting.

Does this writer cover a lot of football, baseball, and hockey? In the NBA, "moving down 2 spots" is the difference between drafting Jeff Green instead of Kevin Durant. This is not a league where you win with quantity over quality.

What a pile.

Or it could be the difference between drafting Chris Bosh instead of Darko Millicic. Every draft is different.

Looks like it's more of a Bosh, Wade, Carmelo decision in Ainge's eyes.

Exactly. If Ainge thinks there isn't really much separation between the #1 and #3, then trading #1 to get another asset (and a chance at a great asset) is good business.

[cltc5]

Why?  Why should we dick around because if greed.  We get two 1st rounders and a number three pick for a guy we don't need.  Get over yourselves!

[Roy H.]

Why?  Why should we dick around because if greed.  We get two 1st rounders and a number three pick for a guy we don't need.  Get over yourselves!

No, we don't.