Woj, Stein, & Lowe - C's and Sixers in serious talks for #1 pick

[KGBirdBias]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

BUT WE CANNOT SCORE!!  I'm so tired of these defensive studs with versatility.  When we need a bucket, who else besides IT can get one?

THIS^^^

[bdm860]

I can get behind the idea of trading #1 for multiple picks and getting Jimmy Butler back while keeping some of those extra picks.  Then signing Blake Griffin.  That's my dream right now.

Have a team that can compete now (I think it could), while still having future potential lottery picks to add young, cheap talent, or to trade for vets to patch up the new-and-improved championship contender.

Even better if LeBron does go West to sign with the Lakers or Clippers.

[mctyson]

18 pages later and I'm pretty sure the people attached to Fultz and upset would've been just as attached to Joe Barry Carroll, i.e., they've completely sold themselves on the Fultz groupthink and can't rearrange their heads to ponder other possibilities.

I second this sentiment.

I don't necessarily think this is exactly it.  We as fans only can go off of opinions of experts and what we see if we watch a player.  If there is a consensus among the experts most fans formulate their opinion based off of these opinions.

We are fickle though.  All it takes is a few people saying "wow Lonzo Ball is shooting up the charts" or "Fultz and a horrible workout" and we change.

I am on record that the Celtics should draft Fultz at #1 because I trust the wisdom of markets.  However if they do not want him as a player or think that the guys available at #3 or further down are close to as valuable...then the should absolutely trade down. 

The problem is that people have riled themselves up into Fultz hype and banners and jerseys and retirement without ever seeing him play.  That is wrong and that is why Ainge runs the team and we are fans.

[JOMVP]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

BUT WE CANNOT SCORE!!  I'm so tired of these defensive studs with versatility.  When we need a bucket, who else besides IT can get one?

I guess that would be determined by further deals. If we end up with Butler, plus Hayward and still hold on to 3 - things look a ton different.

IT
Butler
Hayward
FA (Taj Gibson?)
Horford

Smart
Brown
Jackson
Zizic

[mr. dee]

18 pages later and I'm pretty sure the people attached to Fultz and upset would've been just as attached to Joe Barry Carroll, i.e., they've completely sold themselves on the Fultz groupthink and can't rearrange their heads to ponder other possibilities.

I second this sentiment.

Third

[Tr1boy]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

BUT WE CANNOT SCORE!!  I'm so tired of these defensive studs with versatility.  When we need a bucket, who else besides IT can get one?

Hayward or maybe Griffin

if not Hayward... i can see Danny signing Dion Waiters

Hayward, Brown and Jackson?  Waiters? Haha, I needed a laugh

you can laugh all you want...but as a backup plan...signing Waiters to provide some scoring help is a good plan

Waiters had some big time games last season... 

[mctyson]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

BUT WE CANNOT SCORE!!  I'm so tired of these defensive studs with versatility.  When we need a bucket, who else besides IT can get one?

THIS^^^

They had one of the best offensive ratings in the NBA this year and the best 4th Q scorer in the league.

[SHAQATTACK]

so.....if you take Jackson , have Brown already , why Keep Jae


im see n too much of a log jam ......and then add Hayward ?


none of this makes since .

[Chris22]

18 pages later and I'm pretty sure the people attached to Fultz and upset would've been just as attached to Joe Barry Carroll, i.e., they've completely sold themselves on the Fultz groupthink and can't rearrange their heads to ponder other possibilities.

I second this sentiment.

I don't necessarily think this is exactly it.  We as fans only can go off of opinions of experts and what we see if we watch a player.  If there is a consensus among the experts most fans formulate their opinion based off of these opinions.

We are fickle though.  All it takes is a few people saying "wow Lonzo Ball is shooting up the charts" or "Fultz and a horrible workout" and we change.

I am on record that the Celtics should draft Fultz at #1 because I trust the wisdom of markets.  However if they do not want him as a player or think that the guys available at #3 or further down are close to as valuable...then the should absolutely trade down. 

The problem is that people have riled themselves up into Fultz hype and banners and jerseys and retirement without ever seeing him play.  That is wrong and that is why Ainge runs the team and we are fans.

I've seen Fultz play.
He is very, very good.
And only 19.

[JOMVP]

so.....if you take Jackson , have Brown already , why Keep Jae


im see n too much of a log jam ......and then add Hayward ?


none of this makes since .

Crowder goes out in a trade for Butler and Bradley would have to go out in a trade maybe for a PF to fill out the lineup?

[SHAQATTACK]

Unless Danny has GOoD info that Lebron is not returnng to Cavs and sees an opening to push the Celtics forward with more stars.

im lost ....all this makes no sense

[Tr1boy]

so.....if you take Jackson , have Brown already , why Keep Jae


im see n too much of a log jam ......and then add Hayward ?


none of this makes since .

If Hayward signs... Jae is a goner imo

[cousytoheinsohn]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

Apt analogy. Almost too apt. Well played.

If Josh's name was Johnson instead of Jackson, we could say that Brad's getting another Johnson for Josh, or something along those twisted lines.

Clearly, the draft can't come soon enough.

[Tr1boy]

18 pages later and I'm pretty sure the people attached to Fultz and upset would've been just as attached to Joe Barry Carroll, i.e., they've completely sold themselves on the Fultz groupthink and can't rearrange their heads to ponder other possibilities.

I second this sentiment.

I don't necessarily think this is exactly it.  We as fans only can go off of opinions of experts and what we see if we watch a player.  If there is a consensus among the experts most fans formulate their opinion based off of these opinions.

We are fickle though.  All it takes is a few people saying "wow Lonzo Ball is shooting up the charts" or "Fultz and a horrible workout" and we change.

I am on record that the Celtics should draft Fultz at #1 because I trust the wisdom of markets.  However if they do not want him as a player or think that the guys available at #3 or further down are close to as valuable...then the should absolutely trade down. 

The problem is that people have riled themselves up into Fultz hype and banners and jerseys and retirement without ever seeing him play.  That is wrong and that is why Ainge runs the team and we are fans.

I've seen Fultz play.
He is very, very good.
And only 19.

let it go Chris... Celtics are not drafting Fultz

Celtics have cancelled their 2nd meeting with him tomorrow. he will be meeting with the 76ers instead

[Dchuck]

I wonder how much input Stevens has had/is having in all of this?

Probably more than anyone is considering or imagining, which would make the situation even more intriguing.

Jackson is definitely much more of a Stevens kind of player. He can guard 1-4 on defense, Brad gets a Stevens in his pants just thinking of that versatility.

BUT WE CANNOT SCORE!!  I'm so tired of these defensive studs with versatility.  When we need a bucket, who else besides IT can get one?

THIS^^^

They had one of the best offensive ratings in the NBA this year and the best 4th Q scorer in the league.

I'm glad these cute stats make u feel more comfortable about our offense.  Just like the #1 seed was so important.  What I saw with my own eyes is us struggling IN THE PLAYOFFS, for anyone other than IT to consistently contribute offensive.