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Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2017, 10:48:46 PM »

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We need another player that can get his shot in the worst way. Fultz is to young to help this year. Hayward fits the bill.

But we also need a true center or a power forward in the worst way. Amir is a goner, KO if we sign him is a 7th man off the bench. We need a front line starting big too.

Can't see how we do this without a trade.
It's called Zizic
Zizic is very unlikely to be a starting level big out the gate.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2017, 03:23:03 AM »

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If we dont get Hayward I really wouldnt care.

He's not a super-star, he will be really expensive, and he really complicates the fit situation and hamstrings our ability to bring in big man help we desperately need.

That said, he is an all-star talent in his prime. Im not gonnna be mad if we miss out on him, but hes not some huge victory if he does sign here.


Agree. Not like he'll bring us a championship. It would be a great piece in a puzzle though.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2017, 05:55:10 AM »

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I think if he signs here, he becomes the best player on this team. I think a lot of the people "meh" about him will be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2017, 02:40:03 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2017, 02:44:23 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2017, 02:53:21 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2017, 02:58:15 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

They still wouldn't be under the cap.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2017, 03:28:07 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2017, 04:06:42 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2017, 04:09:27 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)
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Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2017, 04:38:53 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)

Theres always a chance. Once Cleveland falls to Curry n Durant thats just gonna get his blood boiling n with his age he knows its now or never. Lebrons got 2-3 more years of prime left. He's going to do anything humanly possible to get the best players in FA in that door and if it means shedding contracts with half the team they got i think he will get it done.

Lebron
Irvin
Love
Hayward

That team can level up to

Curry
Durant
Thompson
Green

I fear Cleveland will lose this finals and go at Hayward with all they got.

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2017, 04:40:35 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)

Theres always a chance. Once Cleveland falls to Curry n Durant thats just gonna get his blood boiling n with his age he knows its now or never. Lebrons got 2-3 more years of prime left. He's going to do anything humanly possible to get the best players in FA in that door and if it means shedding contracts with half the team they got i think he will get it done.

Lebron
Irvin
Love
Hayward

That team can level up to

Curry
Durant
Thompson
Green

I fear Cleveland will lose this finals and go at Hayward with all they got.
its just not gonna happen man.

Lebron and Kyrie make a combined 52 mil next season.

The cap is projected at 101 mill. Hayward will command 30.3 mil.

This means they need to be under 71 mil.

Meaning after Lebron and Kyrie they can only have an extra 19 mil in cap space.

Love is 22 mil, so you cant keep him. Thompson is 16.4 mil, but due to cap holds for minimum roster requirements, you cant keep him either. I think JRs contract is just s tiny bit too big as well.

So Cleveland would have Lebron Kyrie, and their choice of Shumpert and Frye.

The entire rest of the team would have to be dumped.
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Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2017, 04:43:16 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)

Theres always a chance. Once Cleveland falls to Curry n Durant thats just gonna get his blood boiling n with his age he knows its now or never. Lebrons got 2-3 more years of prime left. He's going to do anything humanly possible to get the best players in FA in that door and if it means shedding contracts with half the team they got i think he will get it done.

Lebron
Irvin
Love
Hayward

That team can level up to

Curry
Durant
Thompson
Green

I fear Cleveland will lose this finals and go at Hayward with all they got.
its just not gonna happen man.

God i hope not. Hayward needs to come to Boston

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2017, 04:43:53 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)

Theres always a chance. Once Cleveland falls to Curry n Durant thats just gonna get his blood boiling n with his age he knows its now or never. Lebrons got 2-3 more years of prime left. He's going to do anything humanly possible to get the best players in FA in that door and if it means shedding contracts with half the team they got i think he will get it done.

Lebron
Irvin
Love
Hayward

That team can level up to

Curry
Durant
Thompson
Green

I fear Cleveland will lose this finals and go at Hayward with all they got.
its just not gonna happen man.

Whoops

Re: Stevens needs to close deal on Hayward
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2017, 05:42:46 PM »

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If the reports are true that it's really down to the Jazz, HEAT and Celtics for Hayward. Stevens should be the one that can close the deal if it's between Riley and Ainge. What does Miami offer basketball wise besides the weather and no state taxes than Boston? Are they already giving up on Winslow at SF? He might as well stay in Utah if he is really considering the HEAT.

I do believe he's leaving because remember he signed an offer sheet with the Hornets a few years ago. He wasn't concerned about state taxes or weather back then.

Im more concerned with Lebron wanting Hayward to join forces. I dont know Haywards intentions but maybe he would love to be part of a super team and win a championship at his age
How could Cleveland possibly afford him.

Completely unrealistic.

Not if they Rid themselves of Tristin Thompson

It's not possible. Hayward will ask for about 32 million per year.
If they trade Thompson, Smith, Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Sanders and Felder and take back 0 salary in return they could fit him...

I think theyd also have to renounce everyone elses bird rights.

So your saying there's a chance?  8)

Theres always a chance. Once Cleveland falls to Curry n Durant thats just gonna get his blood boiling n with his age he knows its now or never. Lebrons got 2-3 more years of prime left. He's going to do anything humanly possible to get the best players in FA in that door and if it means shedding contracts with half the team they got i think he will get it done.

Lebron
Irvin
Love
Hayward

That team can level up to

Curry
Durant
Thompson
Green

I fear Cleveland will lose this finals and go at Hayward with all they got.
its just not gonna happen man.

Lebron and Kyrie make a combined 52 mil next season.

The cap is projected at 101 mill. Hayward will command 30.3 mil.

This means they need to be under 71 mil.

Meaning after Lebron and Kyrie they can only have an extra 19 mil in cap space.

Love is 22 mil, so you cant keep him. Thompson is 16.4 mil, but due to cap holds for minimum roster requirements, you cant keep him either. I think JRs contract is just s tiny bit too big as well.

So Cleveland would have Lebron Kyrie, and their choice of Shumpert and Frye.

The entire rest of the team would have to be dumped.

Well, THANK GOD Cleveland isn't an option then!   :laugh:

Same with Golden State since they have their own guys to worry about only.
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