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Offline Fireworks_Boom!

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Sign Alex Len to 2 year $24m contract
I love this kid as an underachiever thus far but man does he had some meanness that we sorely lack in the paint. A 2 year trial allows us to see what he is made of.

Trade Avery Bradley for Pick #12 (Pistons)
Logjam of guards and unfortunately we need salary balance at other positions. Avery has earned a large contract and we have built redundancy into roster to allow him to get that while we replace him with an up and comer in Terry Rozier.

Draft Markelle Fultz (#1) and Harry Giles (#12)
Fultz is no-brainer. Harry Giles is a high risk super high reward guy.

New Team
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Markelle Fultz
SG: Marcus Smart / Terry Rozier
SF: Jaylen Brown / Abdel Nader
PF: Jae Crowder / Harry Giles / Guerschon Yabusele
C: Al Horford / Alex Len / Ante Zizic

« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 01:41:43 PM by Fireworks_Boom! »

Re: A different offseason plan to attack major areas of weakness...
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Offline chilidawg

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I wouldn't want to see Smart starting at the 2, Brown at the 3 or Crowder at the 4.  Plus Len hasn't developed much at all, so giving him $12m a year, which would probably eliminate anyother free agent signing, doesn't seem like a great idea.

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Offline Monkhouse

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What is the infatuation with Alex Len?

Just curious.
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the fact you've acknowledge Len is an underachiever should tip you off that he's not who we should be going after.

I wouldn't give AB for just a late lottery pick.  he's worth more than that.  also, IF we were to trade AB to get something back it'd be either because we're getting a better player back (as part of a larger deal) or for future assets, not assets that would add to the cap this year.  we'd want something back that wouldn't be a cap hit if we were to trade him for picks

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What is the infatuation with Alex Len?

Just curious.
big man who was recent high pick and could be had for cheap. That simple.

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What is the infatuation with Alex Len?

Just curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIHxVcwXXo

There isn't a single player in the last xx years on the Celtics roster that can explode in the paint like this guy. If he can get more consistent, he has that toughness and edge which could establish us down low.

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What is the infatuation with Alex Len?

Just curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIHxVcwXXo

There isn't a single player in the last xx years on the Celtics roster that can explode in the paint like this guy. If he can get more consistent, he has that toughness and edge which could establish us down low.
main problem is that he sucks.

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I wouldn't want to see Smart starting at the 2, Brown at the 3 or Crowder at the 4.

I would.   Smart can't shoot so could he play SG, definitely on defense, but on offense, I think not.   Also, Crowder at four is a joke, right?   He is not capable of playing that position well.  His rpg are not good for a 4, I doubt if he could D PF is they posted him up.  Enough of the small ball, lineups that got us killed.  I doubt Jae is much taller than 6-5 and while he is strong for his size, he is not strong enough to play sustained minutes at PF.   That lineup would be literally shooting yourself in the foot, every game.

It is my hope that we improve the team with some infusion of talent in this off season.   Not run it back only to narrowly avoid getting swept by the CAVs again.

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Guys...Avery Bradley makes $8M a year, you can't just trade him for a pick.

Re: A different offseason plan to attack major areas of weakness...
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How can you attack major areas of weakness if you are starting Crowder as PF?  :-[

Re: A different offseason plan to attack major areas of weakness...
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 06:38:05 AM »

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Sign Alex Len to 2 year $24m contract
I love this kid as an underachiever thus far but man does he had some meanness that we sorely lack in the paint. A 2 year trial allows us to see what he is made of.

Trade Avery Bradley for Pick #12 (Pistons)
Logjam of guards and unfortunately we need salary balance at other positions. Avery has earned a large contract and we have built redundancy into roster to allow him to get that while we replace him with an up and comer in Terry Rozier.

Draft Markelle Fultz (#1) and Harry Giles (#12)
Fultz is no-brainer. Harry Giles is a high risk super high reward guy.

New Team
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Markelle Fultz
SG: Marcus Smart / Terry Rozier
SF: Jaylen Brown / Abdel Nader
PF: Jae Crowder / Harry Giles / Guerschon Yabusele
C: Al Horford / Alex Len / Ante Zizic

I think your roster is a little off there. Let me help you.

PG: PG: Isaiah Thomas / Markelle Fultz / Marcus Smart / Rozier
SG: Jaylen Brown / Markelle Fultz / Marcus Smart / Rozier
SF: Jae Crowder / Jaylen Brown / Abdel Nader
PF: Al Horford / Jae Crowder / Yabu / Giles
C: Alex Len / Ante Zizic / Al Horford / Giles

Truthfully that's not horrible. I don't think Len is all that and a bag of chips but he does offer some potential. The Cs could go small with good offense with IT, Fultz, Brown, Jae and Horford or big with Fultz, Brown, Crowder, Horford and Len. Guys like Giles, Yabu, Zizic and Nader all create physical mismatches with other teams. Smart is a gadfly and should work well with either Fultz or IT. When/if Fultz and/or Brown blossoms, they take over more of a starting role. Brown will be more of a natural SF later in his career anyway.

It's not the worst idea I've heard once you get the starting rosters correct.

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Guys...Avery Bradley makes $8M a year, you can't just trade him for a pick.

You can if the other team has $8m in cap space.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2017, 06:45:24 AM by Granath »
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

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Re: A different offseason plan to attack major areas of weakness...
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That team takes 3 steps backwards from where we are right now. Crowder starting at PF with Giles as his backup means our rebounding is still awful. I see Giles as having huge bust potential and you have him as a primary backup.  Len is an underachiever and does one thing good(not great, just good), rebound. Most everything else he does isn't good. Smart isn't starter quality because he can't shoot. Brown is not starting quality yet. Maybe by end of next year. Out of 12 players 6 are either rookies or 2nd year players.

Hate everything about this idea.

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That team takes 3 steps backwards from where we are right now. Crowder starting at PF with Giles as his backup means our rebounding is still awful. I see Giles as having huge bust potential and you have him as a primary backup.  Len is an underachiever and does one thing good(not great, just good), rebound. Most everything else he does isn't good. Smart isn't starter quality because he can't shoot. Brown is not starting quality yet. Maybe by end of next year. Out of 12 players 6 are either rookies or 2nd year players.

Hate everything about this idea.

Look at my post 2 above yours.

Same players, different rotation. It makes all the difference in the world - at least as good as we are now and probably better with a younger focus.
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

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I don't think Len signs for that money and those amount of years. Also, isn't he a restricted free agent? Doesn't Phoenix have plenty of cap space (checked, they have about 27 million free)? If you offer Len a cheapo deal they are just going to match it so as to not lose him for nothing.

Also, I know Fultz will eventually start at some point but I don't want to see any more prospective lineups for next year that have Smart at SG. That just hurts my eyes and my heart.