Jeff Van Gundy said pencil in Warriors for 8-10 straight Finals

[Boris Badenov]

While we're on the subject of the Finals I'm just going to take this opportunity to whine about how they have stretched it out.

For me it really kills the energy and any feeling of momentum or urgency. It's just silly. You don't need three ****g weeks to play seven games.

Yeah, I'm with you there.  I get the extra day off when flying coast-to-coast, which they've unfortunately added more of by getting rid of the 2-3-2 format.  But two days off between games one and two is just stupid.

It's not just because I can't wait to hear "With the #1 pick in the 2017 NBA draft..." either.

Be honest, it is partly because of that, right? lol

I'd happily cut the series to three games. If GS wins tomorrow, we can have the draft Monday.

[tazzmaniac]

While we're on the subject of the Finals I'm just going to take this opportunity to whine about how they have stretched it out.

For me it really kills the energy and any feeling of momentum or urgency. It's just silly. You don't need three ****g weeks to play seven games.

Yeah, I'm with you there.  I get the extra day off when flying coast-to-coast, which they've unfortunately added more of by getting rid of the 2-3-2 format.  But two days off between games one and two is just stupid.

It's not just because I can't wait to hear "With the #1 pick in the 2017 NBA draft..." either.

Be honest, it is partly because of that, right? lol

I'd happily cut the series to three games. If GS wins tomorrow, we can have the draft Monday.

Time does seem to have slowed down.  I wish there was more news on workouts.  Even a bunch of 2nd round prospect workouts would be a good distraction. 

[SparzWizard]

While we're on the subject of the Finals I'm just going to take this opportunity to whine about how they have stretched it out.

For me it really kills the energy and any feeling of momentum or urgency. It's just silly. You don't need three ****g weeks to play seven games.

Yeah, I'm with you there.  I get the extra day off when flying coast-to-coast, which they've unfortunately added more of by getting rid of the 2-3-2 format.  But two days off between games one and two is just stupid.

I missed the 2-3-2 format. Felt like the underdog team had home-court advantage. Just steal game 2 and win the next 3.

Too bad the 2010 Celtics couldn't defend Game 3 at home, freakin' Ray Allen...otherwise, #18 would've been a blast celebrating at the Garden.

[Somebody]

Doesn't matter because we'd be beating their brains out in their latter half of finals appearances

[Bucketgetter]

The Lakers might be relevant and become a hindrance to the Warriors when they draft Lonzo Ball, acquire PG13 and play along with their core of Randle/Ingram/Clarkson/Mozgov.

Lol

[chambers]

Warriors have until 2021 until things start getting hard for them to keep all of Durant, Steph, Draymond and Klay.

Then one of them will probably have to go. That will probably be Klay if this season is an indicator.
Unless Klay decides to leave early.


So yeah, it will be at least 5 or 6 years until they lose their awesome foursome due to financial reasons.

[mctyson]

I have to agree with this.

This is the same GSW that was down 3-1 in the WCF to OKC right, minus Durant?

2-3 years maybe.

[adam8]

I have to agree with this.

This is the same GSW that was down 3-1 in the WCF to OKC right, minus Durant?

2-3 years maybe.

Yeah so in other words there was one team that challenged them and they now have that teams best player so I don't really see how that's relevant at all.

It's really hard to assume everyone stays healthy for another 5 years but then again I don't know if there is a player on their team that could get injured and they wouldn't make the finals, they were lights out without Durant, and still have plenty of talent if Curry gets hurt.

[Greyman]

Forecasts for 8 to 10 years can't account for many factors that will play a part. Any number of teams could become much better and the shelf life of the best players can shorten quickly due to injury or other factors. GSW should enjoy what success they can achieve while they can. Long range forecasts are rarely accurate.

[tazzmaniac]

Warriors have until 2021 until things start getting hard for them to keep all of Durant, Steph, Draymond and Klay.

Then one of them will probably have to go. That will probably be Klay if this season is an indicator.
Unless Klay decides to leave early.


So yeah, it will be at least 5 or 6 years until they lose their awesome foursome due to financial reasons.

Thompson is a free agent after the 2018/19 season.  I'd expect him to leave then.  You can only play 4th fiddle for so long. 

[chambers]

Warriors have until 2021 until things start getting hard for them to keep all of Durant, Steph, Draymond and Klay.

Then one of them will probably have to go. That will probably be Klay if this season is an indicator.
Unless Klay decides to leave early.


So yeah, it will be at least 5 or 6 years until they lose their awesome foursome due to financial reasons.

Thompson is a free agent after the 2018/19 season.  I'd expect him to leave then.  You can only play 4th fiddle for so long.

He can still get paid the max by the Warriors though. So he won't be forced to leave because of financial reasons.

Warriors don't really have luxury tax issues until Klay and Green both get max deals and the Warriors get the repeater tax.

People have to remember Thompson and Green are currently 44th and 54th paid players and dropping.

Warriors don't face the repeater until 2021 then skip 2 yrs if they can avoid the luxury tax next season.

All that needs to be done
Curry 1 mil discount
Durant 3 mil for 1 yr.
Iggy Livingston for around the mle.
To be under 121 luxury tax line.

Don't know what teams would have 36 mil in space 4 yrs from now for Thompson.

[MBunge]

If the Warriors resign Curry and Durant for ONLY $25 million a year, that still puts them over the salary cap next year and only about $18 million under the luxury tax.  Anybody think Iguodala and Livingston aren't at least going to get offered deals of at least $15 mil a year?

I know the idea of Durant taking less money has been floated but even if he and the other three guys mentioned sign for a combined $100 million less than they could get for market-level deals, GSW will still wind up paying a huge luxury tax bill if they fill out the rest of their roster with minimum salary guys.  And then they've got to resign Klay Thompson eventually.

So while GSW might be a title contender for another 8 years, their window of being a super team is probably less than half that.

Mike

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

BLAZIN HOT TAKE

[tazzmaniac]

Warriors have until 2021 until things start getting hard for them to keep all of Durant, Steph, Draymond and Klay.

Then one of them will probably have to go. That will probably be Klay if this season is an indicator.
Unless Klay decides to leave early.


So yeah, it will be at least 5 or 6 years until they lose their awesome foursome due to financial reasons.

Thompson is a free agent after the 2018/19 season.  I'd expect him to leave then.  You can only play 4th fiddle for so long.

He can still get paid the max by the Warriors though. So he won't be forced to leave because of financial reasons.

Warriors don't really have luxury tax issues until Klay and Green both get max deals and the Warriors get the repeater tax.

People have to remember Thompson and Green are currently 44th and 54th paid players and dropping.

Warriors don't face the repeater until 2021 then skip 2 yrs if they can avoid the luxury tax next season.

All that needs to be done
Curry 1 mil discount
Durant 3 mil for 1 yr.
Iggy Livingston for around the mle.
To be under 121 luxury tax line.

Don't know what teams would have 36 mil in space 4 yrs from now for Thompson.

Don't see them avoiding luxury tax next season.  I'd expect Curry to get designated veteran signing at 35% Max.  Durant will probably sacrifice some money this year in a 1+1 contract but then he'll get 35% Max after next season.  He'd be sacrificing money to keep the team together not to keep ownership out of the luxury tax.  I doubt Iggy and Livingston will take discounts.

[max215]

8-10 years is most certainly hyperbolic. It wouldn't be a stretch to say 3-5.