If Hayward and Fultz are in, which two are out?

[Roy H.]

I cant see how crowder and hayward coexist..

Crowder nor hayward can guard shooting guards nor pfs full time

How did we find minutes for Paul Pierce and James Posey?

It's the same dynamic. Hayward is the starting SF. Hopefully, Crowder is the backup SF/PF.

Also, Hayward plays SG just fine.

Then what about AB?

Who plays in the 4th quarter with less than 5 mins to go?

AB gets traded for future draft picks.

The 4th quarter lineup depends, but until Fultz or Brown prove themselves, I'm fine with:

Horford
Crowder
Hayward
Smart
IT

[aingeforthree]

I cant see how crowder and hayward coexist..

Crowder nor hayward can guard shooting guards nor pfs full time

How did we find minutes for Paul Pierce and James Posey?

It's the same dynamic. Hayward is the starting SF. Hopefully, Crowder is the backup SF/PF.

Also, Hayward plays SG just fine.

Then what about AB?

Who plays in the 4th quarter with less than 5 mins to go?

AB gets traded for future draft picks.

The 4th quarter lineup depends, but until Fultz or Brown prove themselves, I'm fine with:

Horford
Crowder
Hayward
Smart
IT

Not sure on the Hayward move, but something tells me Ainge is still after Jordan. DeAndre Jordan.

The two who are out & are in the trade package are Bradley & Rozier. Who knows what pick or picks it will take.

[Evantime34]

The first guy will be a trade in order to create cap space for a max free agent, Bradley, Smart or Crowder are the contenders

The second guy will probably be Olynyk, because it's very difficult to sign him if we add Hayward.

Amir played 1608 minutes, Jerebko played 1232 minutes, Zeller/Green both played around 500 minutes each. Some of those ~4000 minutes will be going to increased roles for Jaylen plus Fultz/Hayward.

On a related note I expect us to play a ton of small ball. If we keep sign Hayward and keep Crowder I expect Crowder to play more 4 than 3 for us.

[Smokeeye123]

Crowder/Bradley/Smart

Pick two of the above.

[saltlover]

Bradley and Rozier are out.

[playdream]

AB for sure
next i will choose TR>KO>JC

[Darío SpanishFan]

I hope Bradley isn't.

[Atzar]

I cant see how crowder and hayward coexist..

Crowder nor hayward can guard shooting guards nor pfs full time

How did we find minutes for Paul Pierce and James Posey?

It's the same dynamic. Hayward is the starting SF. Hopefully, Crowder is the backup SF/PF.

Also, Hayward plays SG just fine.

IMO if we bring Crowder off of the bench, then he becomes more valuable to somebody else than to us. 

What is a terrific deal for an average starting 3 becomes just a solid deal for a backup 3. 

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I hope Bradley isn't.

i think he is

[CFAN38]

It is going to come down to the following

Is KO resigned?

  If YES then AB or Smart gets traded (or maybe IT and Jackson) and Yabu is left in China for another year
 
  If NO then Rozier and Jackson have to be traded and Yabu stays in China

After that I think DA makes it Brads problem for the first half of the season.


For the sake of argument lets say that Hayward lets it be know that he plans to sign with Boston. The Cs would then put in motion loosing KO and trading Rozier for a future pick or a draft and stash. Other minor moves like waiving Zeller and Mickey then letting Amir, JJ and Green walk will need to occur. After drafting Fultz and at least 1 2nd round pick who may make the team. The Cs then sign Hayward and Zizic and are left with the following roster.

PG IT, Fultz, Smart

SG AB

SF Hayward, Crowder, Brown

PF

C Horford, Zizic

I am not a cap expert but I believe at this point min salary players can be added to the roster. In the early second round I would like to see the Cs target a big man who has potential to actually play in the near future Ex Swanigan (DX #40 or Bell (DX #33). With one of the late 2nd round picks the Cs could give a productive old college player a shot at making the team Ex F Mason (DX #48), Thornwell (DX #56), or Sterling Brown DX #59  For FA maybe Amir and Green can be sold on resigning for a min deal? Nader would be a nice signing out of the D-league (now G-league).

That would leave the roster as the following

PG IT, Fultz, Smart, Mason (2nd rd pick)

SG AB, Green (min FA)

SF Hayward, Crowder, Brown, Nader (FA)

PF Swanigan (2nd rd pick)

C Horford, Zizic, Amir (min FA)

That is a 14 man roster with room to add a vet PF at the end of FA and 2 two way contracts

As for the rotation BS may have some issues taken care of for him if IT needs hip surgery. This could keep him out till Dec and allow BS to start out with the following Rotation.

PG Smart/Fultz
SG AB
SF Hayward
PF Crowder
C Horford
6th Fultz/Smart
7th Brown
8th Zizic
9th Amir ?

That rotation would allow everyone to play adequate minutes to start the year and allow DA to figure out the future of the back-court.

If IT is healthy to start the season then Smart, Fultz and Brown are all left to battle over the roughly 45-48 minutes backing up the 1-3 positions.

Ultimately the next trade deadline would set the stage for this rosters path with either IT, AB, or Smart likely traded at this point. I personally think if Fultz shows enough to make DA believe he can be a 20+ppg lead guard that IT is moved at the deadline rather then signing him to a huge contract.
 

   

[Tr1boy]

It is going to come down to the following

Is KO resigned?

  If YES then AB or Smart gets traded (or maybe IT and Jackson) and Yabu is left in China for another year
 
  If NO then Rozier and Jackson have to be traded and Yabu stays in China

After that I think DA makes it Brads problem for the first half of the season.


For the sake of argument lets say that Hayward lets it be know that he plans to sign with Boston. The Cs would then put in motion loosing KO and trading Rozier for a future pick or a draft and stash. Other minor moves like waiving Zeller and Mickey then letting Amir, JJ and Green walk will need to occur. After drafting Fultz and at least 1 2nd round pick who may make the team. The Cs then sign Hayward and Zizic and are left with the following roster.

PG IT, Fultz, Smart

SG AB

SF Hayward, Crowder, Brown

PF

C Horford, Zizic

I am not a cap expert but I believe at this point min salary players can be added to the roster. In the early second round I would like to see the Cs target a big man who has potential to actually play in the near future Ex Swanigan (DX #40 or Bell (DX #33). With one of the late 2nd round picks the Cs could give a productive old college player a shot at making the team Ex F Mason (DX #48), Thornwell (DX #56), or Sterling Brown DX #59  For FA maybe Amir and Green can be sold on resigning for a min deal? Nader would be a nice signing out of the D-league (now G-league).

That would leave the roster as the following

PG IT, Fultz, Smart, Mason (2nd rd pick)

SG AB, Green (min FA)

SF Hayward, Crowder, Brown, Nader (FA)

PF Swanigan (2nd rd pick)

C Horford, Zizic, Amir (min FA)

That is a 14 man roster with room to add a vet PF at the end of FA and 2 two way contracts

As for the rotation BS may have some issues taken care of for him if IT needs hip surgery. This could keep him out till Dec and allow BS to start out with the following Rotation.

PG Smart/Fultz
SG AB
SF Hayward
PF Crowder
C Horford
6th Fultz/Smart
7th Brown
8th Zizic
9th Amir ?

That rotation would allow everyone to play adequate minutes to start the year and allow DA to figure out the future of the back-court.

If IT is healthy to start the season then Smart, Fultz and Brown are all left to battle over the roughly 45-48 minutes backing up the 1-3 positions.

Ultimately the next trade deadline would set the stage for this rosters path with either IT, AB, or Smart likely traded at this point. I personally think if Fultz shows enough to make DA believe he can be a 20+ppg lead guard that IT is moved at the deadline rather then signing him to a huge contract.
 

I think the Jazz will steal KO away from the Celts

Offer him more and Celts wont match

Gobert and KO upfront could be annoying to play against

[ETNCeltics]

I don't think Yabu will stay in China another year. Celts will have to do something with him.

[dreamgreen]

AB and Rozier would be my guess, possibly AB and Smart. AB is the odd man out because of his contract status. Don't think they can pay everyone and AB will be up for $20+ million a year.

[Roy H.]

I don't think Yabu will stay in China another year. Celts will have to do something with him.

What's that based upon?

[loco_91]

Rozier is gone, yes. Makes no sense to move Crowder when he's the Smart/AB/IT/himself that isn't up for a big contract next summer. Celtics cannot afford to pay all of those guys in addition to Crowder (it would mean record-shattering luxury tax bills), so it makes more sense to trade one of Smart/AB/IT. AB is most likely because it eases the cap crunch more than dealing Smart and because Smart is the better asset. IT is least likely because he would be involved in the pitch to Hayward.

But how do you split up the mins?

I cant see how crowder and hayward coexist..

Crowder nor hayward can guard shooting guards nor pfs full time

SF isn't even a position anymore. Brad likes to play 2 guards, 2 wings, 1 big. Crowder + Hayward are wings.