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Is this even a debate?The only players from Utahs past that are ever even mentioned are Stockon and Malone.Everyone who plays there is forgotten.2016-2017 national TV games (Boston: 22, Utah: 7)
Quote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.
He can very will be the best player in here
Quote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.
Quote from: Moranis on May 30, 2017, 10:51:55 AMLocally no, but possibly nationally, but at the end of the day winning will trump most everything else.Um, no. The OP is on to something. At the end of the day, money usually trumps everything else.
Locally no, but possibly nationally, but at the end of the day winning will trump most everything else.
Quote from: incoherent on May 30, 2017, 01:52:02 PMIs this even a debate?The only players from Utahs past that are ever even mentioned are Stockon and Malone.Everyone who plays there is forgotten.2016-2017 national TV games (Boston: 22, Utah: 7)Utah had 16 nationally televised games, including NBATV.
Quote from: Roy H. on May 30, 2017, 02:56:04 PMQuote from: incoherent on May 30, 2017, 01:52:02 PMIs this even a debate?The only players from Utahs past that are ever even mentioned are Stockon and Malone.Everyone who plays there is forgotten.2016-2017 national TV games (Boston: 22, Utah: 7)Utah had 16 nationally televised games, including NBATV.I wouldn't consider NBA TV really that much of a national platform... as I understand it's not a heavily viewed channel like ABC or ESPN or TNT.Also do you have a source on the 16 national games? Here's the source I used which shows the Jazz having 7 national games.https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/8/11/12440858/nba-schedule-2016-17-national-television-abc-espn
In addition to the local telecasts, the Jazz are scheduled to appear on national television 17 times, including one ABC broadcast (April 2), three TNT broadcasts (Nov. 17, Jan. 26, March 27), four ESPN broadcasts (Dec. 16, Jan. 13, March 22, April 4) and nine NBA TV appearances, which are only available on NBA TV outside of the ROOT SPORTS Jazz territory.
Some have argued that Hayward will make more money in Boston because of endorsements. Is there a way of quantifying this? Boston is a bigger market, but it is also saturated with stars. Is being the biggest fish in the pond Salt Lake more lucrative than being the second best player on the third most popular team in town?I'm genuinely curious, but I also wanted an excuse to post this:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YnWJOXsBH7oDoes that video single-handedly tip the scales in favor of Utah? I think it may.
Quote from: CelticsJG on May 30, 2017, 05:52:31 PMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.Second Best. Not Best. If you trade Isaiah, then yes, BUT if you trade Isaiah, why would Hayward come here?
Quote from: Roy H. on May 30, 2017, 10:36:55 AMSome have argued that Hayward will make more money in Boston because of endorsements. Is there a way of quantifying this? Boston is a bigger market, but it is also saturated with stars. Is being the biggest fish in the pond Salt Lake more lucrative than being the second best player on the third most popular team in town?I'm genuinely curious, but I also wanted an excuse to post this:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YnWJOXsBH7oDoes that video single-handedly tip the scales in favor of Utah? I think it may.Ortiz just retired so Dunkin Donuts needs another guy to film coffee commercials with Gronkowski. I think he'd make more money here.
Quote from: Phantom255x on May 30, 2017, 06:03:01 PMQuote from: CelticsJG on May 30, 2017, 05:52:31 PMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.Second Best. Not Best. If you trade Isaiah, then yes, BUT if you trade Isaiah, why would Hayward come here?Because Al Horford is still better than anyone else he's played with, and because our other guys are not chopped liver either.Then again, if he wants to ride someone's coattails, he won't.
Quote from: kozlodoev on May 31, 2017, 10:11:52 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 30, 2017, 06:03:01 PMQuote from: CelticsJG on May 30, 2017, 05:52:31 PMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.Second Best. Not Best. If you trade Isaiah, then yes, BUT if you trade Isaiah, why would Hayward come here?Because Al Horford is still better than anyone else he's played with, and because our other guys are not chopped liver either.Then again, if he wants to ride someone's coattails, he won't.Rudy Gobert just made 2nd team All NBA. Al Horford has never been 2nd team All NBA.
Quote from: Phantom255x on May 30, 2017, 06:03:01 PMQuote from: CelticsJG on May 30, 2017, 05:52:31 PMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.Second Best. Not Best. If you trade Isaiah, then yes, BUT if you trade Isaiah, why would Hayward come here?If you're talking more endorsements that I say without questions yes.IMO Hayward is better than IT4. Better play maker which makes his teammates better and not a liability on defense. Hayward has really stepped up his game.
Quote from: Moranis on May 31, 2017, 10:20:53 AMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 31, 2017, 10:11:52 AMQuote from: Phantom255x on May 30, 2017, 06:03:01 PMQuote from: CelticsJG on May 30, 2017, 05:52:31 PMQuote from: kozlodoev on May 30, 2017, 11:10:17 AMQuote from: playdream on May 30, 2017, 10:54:00 AMHe can very will be the best player in hereWill be the third best player on this team barring any trades.Nah Hayward would be the best player on this team.Second Best. Not Best. If you trade Isaiah, then yes, BUT if you trade Isaiah, why would Hayward come here?Because Al Horford is still better than anyone else he's played with, and because our other guys are not chopped liver either.Then again, if he wants to ride someone's coattails, he won't.Rudy Gobert just made 2nd team All NBA. Al Horford has never been 2nd team All NBA.Sure. Gobert also had more votes than Durant and Curry, so I'm guessing he's just better than those guys?