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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2017, 12:45:06 AM »

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Kind of an overreaction to one game. Although if Ainge doesn't draft Fultz i'll be fully on board with firing Danny lol.

As for Brad, I'd prefer we quit throwing out guys like Gerald Green and Amir Johnson when Jaylen is clearly​ the better option. I'd also like to see Fultz given a fair/consistent amount of playing time next season, he's the future and his development should be priority #1.

Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2017, 12:56:07 AM »

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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2017, 01:10:25 AM »

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You can't even blame Danny at this point he's looking like a genius for that pick landing at one. Brad doesn't have many options he's a genius as well for even getting this team this far.

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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2017, 01:15:01 AM »

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This kind of humiliation is no where being seen. The most negative record of NBA history for first time, being 31-72 after first half. Sure that this team does not have a real coach, but a kid, out of NBA level. Plus an irresponsible GM, who brings every year, in last 5 years only junk and mediocre players. This team have to be reformatted from ground zero, if pretend to see a real team during playoff
A Celtics loss and an overreaction thread. I must be on cb!  ;D
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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2017, 01:46:32 AM »

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This kind of humiliation is no where being seen. The most negative record of NBA history for first time, being 31-72 after first half. Sure that this team does not have a real coach, but a kid, out of NBA level. Plus an irresponsible GM, who brings every year, in last 5 years only junk and mediocre players. This team have to be reformatted from ground zero, if pretend to see a real team during playoff
A Celtics loss and an overreaction thread. I must be on cb!  ;D

Whoa whoa -  did I just read that?

Did I just read the word "overreaction" used to refer to scenario in which this #1 seed just lost by a combined 57 points over two straight games, at home, in the Eastern Conference Finals? 

Directly after a series in which that same Celtics team got blown out twice by the Washington in two straight road games by a combined 57 points?

Which came directly after a series in which we lost two straight games by a combined 18 points against a #8 seed Chicago team AT HOME?!?!?!

And you call this an OVERREACTION?!?!?!?!
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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2017, 01:49:36 AM »

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This kind of humiliation is no where being seen. The most negative record of NBA history for first time, being 31-72 after first half. Sure that this team does not have a real coach, but a kid, out of NBA level. Plus an irresponsible GM, who brings every year, in last 5 years only junk and mediocre players. This team have to be reformatted from ground zero, if pretend to see a real team during playoff
A Celtics loss and an overreaction thread. I must be on cb!  ;D

Whoa whoa -  did I just read that?

Did I just read the word "overreaction" used to refer to scenario in which this #1 seed just lost by a combined 57 points over two straight games in the Eastern Conference Finals? 

Directly after being blown out twice by Washington?

Which came directly after blowing two straight games to the #8 seed Chicago at home?!?!?!

And you call this an OVERREACTION?!?!?!?!

what else would you call it? Did you expect anything different after being rushed to play the best team in the league after a grueling series with another better team?

Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2017, 01:50:41 AM »

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Dude, this is a healthy Cavaliers team. It's not freaking Indiana, Chicago, Washington or Toronto.

Nobody is getting past them as long as two of their Big 3 is healthy.
Not to legitimize a horrible OP but there is a lot of real estate between "getting past" Cleveland and losing by 50 on your home court.

how many days rest did the overmatched  Celtics have? how many referees did they have on their side? and finally, oh nevermind.
Officiating has not been that bad. Rest is a legit point. These Celtics are burnt out.

True that rest is a factor. But what is also another factor is that the Cavs have three superstars compared to our tiny star in IT4 and one of the best coaches in the league. That, I feel, is how they just overwhelm the Celtics.

It's more like a power gap between the Cavalierss and the Celtics to the rest of the Eastern Conference.


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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2017, 01:52:51 AM »

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Dude, this is a healthy Cavaliers team. It's not freaking Indiana, Chicago, Washington or Toronto.

Nobody is getting past them as long as two of their Big 3 is healthy.
Not to legitimize a horrible OP but there is a lot of real estate between "getting past" Cleveland and losing by 50 on your home court.

how many days rest did the overmatched  Celtics have? how many referees did they have on their side? and finally, oh nevermind.
Officiating has not been that bad. Rest is a legit point. These Celtics are burnt out.

True that rest is a factor. But what is also another factor is that the Cavs have three superstars compared to our tiny star in IT4 and one of the best coaches in the league. That, I feel, is how they just overwhelm the Celtics.

It's more like a power gap between the Cavalierss and the Celtics to the rest of the Eastern Conference.

WOW LeBron James is a BEAST, and he looks healthy. I am going to enjoy watch him annihilate the Golden State Warriors.

Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2017, 01:57:14 AM »

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This kind of humiliation is no where being seen. The most negative record of NBA history for first time, being 31-72 after first half. Sure that this team does not have a real coach, but a kid, out of NBA level. Plus an irresponsible GM, who brings every year, in last 5 years only junk and mediocre players. This team have to be reformatted from ground zero, if pretend to see a real team during playoff
A Celtics loss and an overreaction thread. I must be on cb!  ;D

Whoa whoa -  did I just read that?

Did I just read the word "overreaction" used to refer to scenario in which this #1 seed just lost by a combined 57 points over two straight games in the Eastern Conference Finals? 

Directly after being blown out twice by Washington?

Which came directly after blowing two straight games to the #8 seed Chicago at home?!?!?!

And you call this an OVERREACTION?!?!?!?!

what else would you call it? Did you expect anything different after being rushed to play the best team in the league after a grueling series with another better team?

Please, stop.

We were lucky to win two games at home against Washington, after allowing ourselves to get into early 20 point holes and somehow digging our way back.  Then we went on to get positively demolished in the next two games against Washington (who I should note, had a worst record in in the regular season then we did). 

Then we got blown out by the Cavs in game one in a game in which the final score only looked even remotely respectable because we got bailed out by  our end of bench guys in garbage time.  Only to then go on to get blown out by an NBA record 41 points by halftime against the same team.  A team which (I might add) had no such consecutive blowouts atainst the previous teams they played (Pacers, Raptors) both of whom are lesser teams then the Celtics.

So pleas, stop making excuses.  Stop blaming fatigue, or whatever it is you are trying to blame this on.  There is no excuse.  This team has fallen apart emotionally against for about the 6th time in these playoffs, against at team that (whether you believe it or not) we are very capable of beating. 

This thread is not an overreaction.  There is no such thing as an overreaction when you've just set an NBA RECORD for the giving up the biggest halftime lead in the history of playoff basketball.

Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2017, 02:03:28 AM »

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You better read the OP which by the way is starting to look more reasonable than yours. At least the OP agrees that we do not have a very good roster. You on the other hand believe we are world beaters.

Your post is worse than an overreaction it is delusional.

Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2017, 02:06:11 AM »

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Dude, this is a healthy Cavaliers team. It's not freaking Indiana, Chicago, Washington or Toronto.

Nobody is getting past them as long as two of their Big 3 is healthy.
Not to legitimize a horrible OP but there is a lot of real estate between "getting past" Cleveland and losing by 50 on your home court.

how many days rest did the overmatched  Celtics have? how many referees did they have on their side? and finally, oh nevermind.
Officiating has not been that bad. Rest is a legit point. These Celtics are burnt out.

True that rest is a factor. But what is also another factor is that the Cavs have three superstars compared to our tiny star in IT4 and one of the best coaches in the league. That, I feel, is how they just overwhelm the Celtics.

It's more like a power gap between the Cavalierss and the Celtics to the rest of the Eastern Conference.

It has nothing to do with it.  None of this has anything to do with it.

Cleveland played Toronto, and they beat them in four games, by an average win margin or 12.5 PPG, and Toronto played half of that series without Kyle Lowry.

Cleveland played Indiana, and they beat them in four games, by an average win margin of 3.75 PPG.

Cleveland just played two games against Boston and have beaten them by an average win margin of 22 points.

Boston is the #1 seed in the East.  There is absolutely no excuse to justify the fact that Toronto (missing their second best player) and Indiana were able to give Cleveland a somewhat competitive series, while they are embarrassing Boston by epic proportions. 


Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2017, 02:09:47 AM »

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Dude, this is a healthy Cavaliers team. It's not freaking Indiana, Chicago, Washington or Toronto.

Nobody is getting past them as long as two of their Big 3 is healthy.
Not to legitimize a horrible OP but there is a lot of real estate between "getting past" Cleveland and losing by 50 on your home court.

how many days rest did the overmatched  Celtics have? how many referees did they have on their side? and finally, oh nevermind.
Officiating has not been that bad. Rest is a legit point. These Celtics are burnt out.

True that rest is a factor. But what is also another factor is that the Cavs have three superstars compared to our tiny star in IT4 and one of the best coaches in the league. That, I feel, is how they just overwhelm the Celtics.

It's more like a power gap between the Cavalierss and the Celtics to the rest of the Eastern Conference.

This is incredibly inaccurate. 

Kyrie Irving is no more a superstar then Isaiah Thomas is.  Kevin Love is no more a superstar then Al Horford is.

They have Lebron, yes, and that is quite an advantage.  But that doesn't mean that they are unbeatable, and it sure as hell isn't an excuse for them blowing us out by some 40 points.

You better read the OP which by the way is starting to look more reasonable than yours. At least the OP agrees that we do not have a very good roster. You on the other hand believe we are world beaters.

Your post is worse than an overreaction it is delusional.


We actually have quite a good roster - although it has quite a bit of room for improvement and is a step back from the best rosters in the league.  But it's still a good roster. 

A few years back, when the Hawks were dominating the regular season (like we did this year), people were raving about how good their roster was - led by Teague, Millsap and Horford. 

We have Horford here now, and I'd take Thomas/Bradley/Crowder over Millsap and Teague any day.

That doesn't mean that I think this is a great team.  I think this is a good team.  I don't think we are a better team then Cleveland, but I do think that if we played like we truly believed we were, then we could beat them. It wouldn't be easy, but we are capable of it.  Their level of talent is not so far beyond ours as people believe.

But regardless, I did not go into this series expecting to win it.  I know we are a young, inexperienced team.  We have a young, inexperienced coach.  We have a hold or two in our roster that need filling.  Because of this, I expected that we probably lose this series.

But what I DIDN'T expect is for us to lay down, play dead, and let them walk all over us without so much as a fight.  I didn't expect for us to flat out refuse to compete.  I didn't expect us to get our asses handed to us in historically embarrassing fashion on our own home court.

I thought this team had more pride then that. 
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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2017, 02:54:15 AM »

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This kind of humiliation is no where being seen. The most negative record of NBA history for first time, being 31-72 after first half. Sure that this team does not have a real coach, but a kid, out of NBA level. Plus an irresponsible GM, who brings every year, in last 5 years only junk and mediocre players. This team have to be reformatted from ground zero, if pretend to see a real team during playoff
A Celtics loss and an overreaction thread. I must be on cb!  ;D

Whoa whoa -  did I just read that?

Did I just read the word "overreaction" used to refer to scenario in which this #1 seed just lost by a combined 57 points over two straight games in the Eastern Conference Finals? 

Directly after being blown out twice by Washington?

Which came directly after blowing two straight games to the #8 seed Chicago at home?!?!?!

And you call this an OVERREACTION?!?!?!?!

what else would you call it? Did you expect anything different after being rushed to play the best team in the league after a grueling series with another better team?

Rushed? They had a day off.

This is how the playoffs work. You don't take care of your business in the previous round, you get less rest.

Let's agree the Celts probably would lose to Cleveland 7 times out of 10 on a neutral court. Let's agree they'd need to play a really great game to win even at home.

With that out of the way, let's hold them accountable for losing by a huge margin, without competing at any point beyond the first few minutes of the first quarter.

Losing is one thing, not even putting up a token fight is inexcusable and requires an explanation.
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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2017, 03:13:35 AM »

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Re: This team need a real coach and new GM
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2017, 03:28:24 AM »

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You're angry, I understand. Me to. But it's an overreaction. That's normal after night like this.
What I am dissapointed with is that this is worse then a sweep. Very very dissapointed with our attitude, our coaching, lack of grid, fight, defense and all that you need in any game, not just NBA-playoffs.
I cannot understand that Brad learned nothing from Game 1. We were looking like school kids.

Folks, this is embarrassing! First night to be ashamed being a Celtic... :'(