Why do C's fans assume PG13 would leave C's for Lakers?

[KGBirdBias]

Way too risky. You have to make sure he signs an extension.

The best case scenario to get PG may be like this.

If Indy already knows he's leaving and they want to ensure they get something for him verses nothing. Once the season starts the value starts to drop fast on what Indy can get. They could trade PG to the Celtics for far less than market value. The Celtics could talk to PG and say play for us for 1 year and then make a decision. The Celtics could put a ton of contingencies in the deal that only get executed when PG signs a long term deal.

The original deal sends Indy - AB (since Teague is a FA), Crowder, Olynk (S&T), Celtics own 2018 pick. If PG doesn't sign extension in 2018, then that's the end of the deal. It gives them something.

If PG signs an extension then the Nets 2018 #1 is automatically sent to Indy. He must sign the deal before the 2018 NBA draft.

Boston still keeps this year's #1 no matter what. Indy gets some value and PG still has options. Everyone is happy. Indy has to hope that PG signs an extension with Boston so the Nets pick will kick in. Indy could look for other deals but none give them that opportunity.

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[rondohondo]

Its so silly.....

The guy himself retweeted a PP tweet that said the C's should trade #1 pick for help.

At the all star break he said he was most excited to see IT

Michael Pina @MichaelVPina

Interviewer: "Name one player you're most excited to see this weekend."

Paul George: "Isaiah."

And here's another quote on how he wants to win, not put up empty stats

“As I told Larry, I always want to play on a winning team. I always want to be part of a team that has a chance to win it [all]. That’s important,” George told ESPN Radio. “Say what you want; I want to compete for something. It’s frustrating just playing the game for stats or for numbers or to showcase yourself. Man, I want a chance to play for a chance to win a championship.”

How anyone can believes he leaves a roster of Hayward, Jaylen, IT, Horford, and all our younger players and picks for the Lakers in total rebuild mode is beyond me.

He clearly has given hints the C's are a team he would have interest in joining.

This narrative that he is automatically going to LA is so will to me.

Retweeting a tweet and saying he likes Isaiah Thomas doesn't mean he wants to sign with and spend the next 5 years of his life in the city.


Literally everyone around the league and every report seemingly leaked from his camp says he wants to sign with the Lakers. If you want to believe a retweet but don't want to believe the reports that's your business.

So if I believe Paul George ,the person himself , retweeting that the C's should trade #1 for an all-star(himself) over "sources" saying the same things they said when Aldridge, Howard, Derozen, Carmelo and Lebron all going to the Lakers, I must be the foolish one?

OK.....

[ETNCeltics]

I love PG's game, and IMO, he's the 2nd best player in the EC.

But he's not elite. He's not Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, etc. He can't carry us past Cleveland. We still would need another star. Which is why there's no way I'd give up a BRK pick for him.

He's got one year left on his deal. He has limited value now. Plus, as Wyc said a few days ago, it's a big deal to surrender a rookie who you could have at a (relatively) low salary, vs. a guy like PG getting the max.

OP is probably right, he wouldn't leave a contending Boston team for a struggling LA team, but you can't risk an asset like a BRK 1 based on that assumption.

If a great deal for PG comes our way, great, especially if we can't get Hayward. But if not, we're on the right path, sit tight, take the young talent like Fultz.

[obnoxiousmime]

Put me in the "too risky" camp.

The Celtics would be under a lot of pressure to win next season and they'd already be minus whatever assets it would take to acquire him. While he is a great player, I doubt the team would be able to put up much of a challenge against the Cavs. Even though the Lakers wouldn't have any better odds at winning a title anytime soon, he might think to himself it doesn't matter what team I join, we're going to be roadkill for the Warriors or Cavs anyway.

If we had lost the lottery and had something like the 3rd or 4th pick, I would have been open to using it as the centerpiece of a deal but only if George would agree to a contract extension. Fultz under control for 7-8 years is too valuable for anybody not named Kawhi or Davis or Towns or Giannis though.

[Moranis]

I'd be all for adding George for something like Crowder, Smart, and Fultz, but only after Boston landed Griffin or Hayward in free agency because without that first piece, George alone doesn't do enough to give up the BKN pick.

[td450]

Indiana is in trouble. They can't walk away with nothing, but they don't have much leverage. They might very well not be willing to keep Teague, and I don't see how they salvage this situation. So they probably feel like they MUST move him this offseason.

In all likelihood, George goes to whoever gives Indiana the best offer, discounted for the reality that he will want to:

Be on the Lakers. I don't see PG as Carmelo 2.0, so this probably only happens as a free agent, so the Lakers can keep their pick and young assets

Be on a real contender that can convince him to stay. A major market is a plus too.

It looks highly unlikely that Indiana will get more than 50 cents on the dollar for Paul George. He won't draw an offer from us that includes a Brooklyn pick. What team can talk him into staying? If LA trades for PG, he is trapped on a loser for the foreseeable future. Who can give up sufficient assets and still be a serious contender?

We may be the only serious option Indiana has

[Tr1boy]

Indiana is in trouble. They can't walk away with nothing, but they don't have much leverage. They might very well not be willing to keep Teague, and I don't see how they salvage this situation. So they probably feel like they MUST move him this offseason.

In all likelihood, George goes to whoever gives Indiana the best offer, discounted for the reality that he will want to:

Be on the Lakers. I don't see PG as Carmelo 2.0, so this probably only happens as a free agent, so the Lakers can keep their pick and young assets

Be on a real contender that can convince him to stay. A major market is a plus too.

It looks highly unlikely that Indiana will get more than 50 cents on the dollar for Paul George. He won't draw an offer from us that includes a Brooklyn pick. What team can talk him into staying? If LA trades for PG, he is trapped on a loser for the foreseeable future. Who can give up sufficient assets and still be a serious contender?

We may be the only serious option Indiana has

Agree...their future will be messed up

If lakers offer #2 and Ingram...take the offer

[TheSundanceKid]

Everyone thought De Rozan would sign with Lakers and he thumbed his nose. If the Lakers continue to struggle next season, would not expect George to sign with them.

PG13 is a bigger name than derozan

If pg13 goes to the lakers...even if lakers have to give up a ton get him... FAs will start flocking to LA

People expected Westbrook to go to LA. Instead he extended with OKC. He's definitely as big a name as George

[No Nickname]

Indiana is in trouble. They can't walk away with nothing, but they don't have much leverage. They might very well not be willing to keep Teague, and I don't see how they salvage this situation. So they probably feel like they MUST move him this offseason.

In all likelihood, George goes to whoever gives Indiana the best offer, discounted for the reality that he will want to:

Be on the Lakers. I don't see PG as Carmelo 2.0, so this probably only happens as a free agent, so the Lakers can keep their pick and young assets

Be on a real contender that can convince him to stay. A major market is a plus too.

It looks highly unlikely that Indiana will get more than 50 cents on the dollar for Paul George. He won't draw an offer from us that includes a Brooklyn pick. What team can talk him into staying? If LA trades for PG, he is trapped on a loser for the foreseeable future. Who can give up sufficient assets and still be a serious contender?

We may be the only serious option Indiana has

Agree...their future will be messed up

If lakers offer #2 and Ingram...take the offer

Wow, if I'm Indiana I take that in a [they just took it, it was that fast] heartbeat.

If I'm the Lakers I'm thinking I'd rather wait and lure him to LA as a FA in a year and give up nothing, letting Ingram and Ball take their lumps and get better.

If I'm Paul George I don't want LA to give up those assets.  So I would string Indiana along and not ask for a trade this season.

[KGs Knee]

I'm not buying it. If George comes to Boston, he's staying.  No way he leaves a winner for LA.

I'm sure LA is his preferred choice, but if they can't show him a path to winning it won't matter.  Right now LA cannot do that at all.  A lot will have to change (other trades first) for that to happen.

I also suspect Magic will do the smart thing and let this rebuild play out a little slower.  I think his only goal is to either get PG on the cheap or drive up the price for others.

[Tr1boy]

Indiana is in trouble. They can't walk away with nothing, but they don't have much leverage. They might very well not be willing to keep Teague, and I don't see how they salvage this situation. So they probably feel like they MUST move him this offseason.

In all likelihood, George goes to whoever gives Indiana the best offer, discounted for the reality that he will want to:

Be on the Lakers. I don't see PG as Carmelo 2.0, so this probably only happens as a free agent, so the Lakers can keep their pick and young assets

Be on a real contender that can convince him to stay. A major market is a plus too.

It looks highly unlikely that Indiana will get more than 50 cents on the dollar for Paul George. He won't draw an offer from us that includes a Brooklyn pick. What team can talk him into staying? If LA trades for PG, he is trapped on a loser for the foreseeable future. Who can give up sufficient assets and still be a serious contender?

We may be the only serious option Indiana has

Agree...their future will be messed up

If lakers offer #2 and Ingram...take the offer

Wow, if I'm Indiana I take that in a [they just took it, it was that fast] heartbeat.

If I'm the Lakers I'm thinking I'd rather wait and lure him to LA as a FA in a year and give up nothing, letting Ingram and Ball take their lumps and get better.

If I'm Paul George I don't want LA to give up those assets.  So I would string Indiana along and not ask for a trade this season.

George cant get max then

[ETNCeltics]

Indiana has missed their window to get a big payday for trading PG.

They wouldn't be able to get anything other than, for example, a Bradley + future Celtic #1 and some spare parts. Getting a prospect like Ingram, Brown and a Brk #1 type pick is closed to them now. Unless they were confident they could keep him, they should have traded him last year.

[KGs Knee]

Indiana has missed their window to get a big payday for trading PG.

They wouldn't be able to get anything other than, for example, a Bradley + future Celtic #1 and some spare parts. Getting a prospect like Ingram, Brown and a Brk #1 type pick is closed to them now. Unless they were confident they could keep him, they should have traded him last year.

Not with LAL driving up the price.

[kraidstar]

PG isn't going to LA unless they trade for him.

LA is like that cute girl you had a huge crush on in high school but never got together with.

Then you look her up 10 years later and she's 300 pounds with six kids and a meth habit, and you realize she isn't what you thought she was.

[johnnygreen]

I don't buy the Lakers rumor. that team is too far away rom competing. The only way he plays in LA is in a Clippers uniform.

The dream scenario is for the Lakers to trade the #2 pick for George. After playing out the year before signing an extension, he decides the Lakers are not for him, and leaves to sign with Boston.