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Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
« on: May 15, 2017, 03:56:50 PM »

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We need a young pf that can rebound sooo badly. We have a massive logjam at guard and if we get the number one pick we are going to select Fultz. This will only increase the logjam.
The celtics need a cheap young good pf to replace amir johnson.
 I say we give up avery bradley and picks for Randle.

We can start randle at the 4 next to horford.
 Thomas can take the point
Fultz can start at the 2
Hopefully we can sign Hayward and start him at the 3
Randle can start at the 4
Horford at the 5
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Re: Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
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Re: Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 04:20:29 PM »

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He could not be a worse fit for Brad's system.  He doesn't play defense and he can't shoot.

The idea of trading Bradley for him is not a great one by any metric.

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 04:22:10 PM »

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 One of the most beat to death topics of all time on CB. Let's let this one Go.

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 04:29:19 PM »

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I think we avoided Randle at the time for having both a lack of physical ability and an absence of perceived willingness to defend.

We expect a certain amount of stopping power out of our front court and so far we've shown no signs of moving away from that and he's shown no signs becoming a competent defender. I like Randle and admit that I wanted us to draft him over Smart at the time but the direction of the franchise remains what it is and I don't see us trying to trade for him.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 04:35:47 PM »

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This? Again? On the verge of a seven game and the lottery?  :( :blank: :-\

I hadn't seen: BRADLEY AND PICKS FOR RANDLE.

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Re: Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 04:37:25 PM »

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Now that you mention it, it has been almost two weeks since the last Giannis thread.

Re: Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 04:45:48 PM »

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He could not be a worse fit for Brad's system.  He doesn't play defense and he can't shoot.

The idea of trading Bradley for him is not a great one by any metric.
Wait a second. Is he a worse fit than KO because...KO can play defense and shoot? idk

Is Amir a good fit for this offense?

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 04:57:33 PM »

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We need a young pf that can rebound sooo badly. We have a massive logjam at guard and if we get the number one pick we are going to select Fultz. This will only increase the logjam.
The celtics need a cheap young good pf to replace amir johnson.
 I say we give up avery bradley and picks for Randle.

We can start randle at the 4 next to horford.
 Thomas can take the point
Fultz can start at the 2
Hopefully we can sign Hayward and start him at the 3
Randle can start at the 4
Horford at the 5

Randle is not a very good player and did not show much improvement this year. He is very bad defensively and doesn't show signs of getting better there. We are pretty lucky to not have him.

Re: Julius Randle the guy we should have taken
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 05:03:15 PM »

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Randle showed better shooting percentage from a Sullyesque 43% from the field to an improved  49%.    That was always my big knock and well we have enough guys who can't shoot on this team not named IT or AH.

I still don't think he is the answer for us or the guy we should have taken.  I would rather have Clint Capela than Randle and so would you if you thought about it.   But hindsight is 20/20.  A kid I liked in this draft was Rodney Hood and I think I would take him over Randle as well.
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Also, if you want Randle because he is better than Smart, thats fine. Dont tell me we should have drafted Randle because 3 years later, Randle better addresses a need. Thats not how you draft.

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 05:56:28 PM »

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Randle and Smart have each played 28.4 mpg in their careers.  Smart is averaging 9.3 p, 3.8 r, 3.7 a, 1.5 s, 0.3 b, 1.6 t, 2.7 f on 42% from 2, 29.1% from 3, and 76.2% from the line (2.6 attempts).  Randle is averaging 12.2 p, 9.4 r, 2.6 a, 0.7 s, 0.4 b, 2.1 t, 3.1 f on 46.9% from 2, 27.3% from 3, and 71.7 % from the line (3.6 attempts).  Smart is a much better defender which doesn't show up in the stats as much, but there is a pretty clear statistical advantage to Randle.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2017, 06:00:34 PM »

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Randle and Smart have each played 28.4 mpg in their careers.  Smart is averaging 9.3 p, 3.8 r, 3.7 a, 1.5 s, 0.3 b, 1.6 t, 2.7 f on 42% from 2, 29.1% from 3, and 76.2% from the line (2.6 attempts).  Randle is averaging 12.2 p, 9.4 r, 2.6 a, 0.7 s, 0.4 b, 2.1 t, 3.1 f on 46.9% from 2, 27.3% from 3, and 71.7 % from the line (3.6 attempts).  Smart is a much better defender which doesn't show up in the stats as much, but there is a pretty clear statistical advantage to Randle.

Except for the whole "plays 30+ min on a 50-win #1 seed team" statistic that you nicely left out.

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2017, 06:06:08 PM »

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Now that you mention it, it has been almost two weeks since the last Giannis thread.

Guys, Ainge really messed up by not trading up AND selecting giannis😎
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2017, 06:10:20 PM »

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Now that you mention it, it has been almost two weeks since the last Giannis thread.

Guys, Ainge really messed up by not trading up AND selecting giannis😎

IDK, I still feel like Banks ends up the better player than Delonte