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Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2017, 08:45:22 AM »

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Of those available, a healthy Blake would be the best.   


Of course the key word to worry about is health.


After that, it is probably time to trade one (or two depending on the draft) of the short Gs that make up the Celtics backcourt for a good PF/C.   

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2017, 08:48:46 AM »

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Well to be perfect for Brad he needs to be at least adequate as a passer and he must be able to stretch the floor.

To fit perfect next to Al, he needs to be a terrific rebounder and must be able to defend decently well on the perimeter(Al cant do this).

So, who out there is a good passer, who can stretch the floor, defend the perimeter and (bonus) provide a physical presence inside whether thats strength and tougness or shot blocking.

Blake Griffin actually has the near perfect skillset. Kristapz checks a lot of those boxes. If Millsap rebounded the tiniest bit better, hed be perfect.

If you are talking recent draft picks, Id say: Sabonis, Chriss(mediocre rebounder) and maybe Gordon(neither a rebounder nor floor spacer) and Randle(cant defend perimeter and cant spread floor).

Really no prospects in recent memory(outisde Kristaps) are both decent NBA players and check all those boxes.

Johnathan Isaac is really close. He has the size and athleticism to defend the perimeter and also could rebound well. Hes also got a nice stroke from the outside. Problem with him is that he isnt a good passer(not a dealbreaker) and he strikes me as more of a finesse guy, he has a skinnier frame and might not as much toughness and rebounding as I think is ideal.

Blake - Cant pass nor shoot the 3
And Isaac - asthma condition
Blake is a very good passer. Asthma is really treatable. Medicine has come a long way man.

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So Mickey doesn't jump high because he doesn't like showing off, Sabonis' stamina gets better as a game goes on, and apparently Issac's career is in jeopardy due to asthma. The mind of Triboy is truly a fascinating place, where logic is not welcomed.

Giannis- would be a nightmare for opposing teams to deal with as a ballhandling 4, especially with the shooting (Thomas, Bradley, Al, Crowder, etc.) we can surround him with.

How is cliff alexandre doing?

At least Mickey and Sabonis are on nba rosters..

Go read your chad ford reports... Instead of jotting down nonsense

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2017, 09:02:57 AM »

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If the Celts end up picking 4... And there isnt a player at 4 Danny really likes...another option could be to trade down for a high ceiling prospect like Justin Patton

Physical tools,  some elite /developing skills for a big man ,  good energy/motor

Draftexpress highlights on Patton uploaded a few days ago

https://youtu.be/VZqbgbdiEtk

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2017, 09:26:57 AM »

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If the Celts end up picking 4... And there isnt a player at 4 Danny really likes...another option could be to trade down for a high ceiling prospect like Justin Patton

Physical tools,  some elite /developing skills for a big man ,  good energy/motor

Draftexpress highlights on Patton uploaded a few days ago

https://youtu.be/VZqbgbdiEtk

This guy looks really good but I am not sure he can be guy we take with our lottery pick. Where is he projected to be drafted? Can Danny possibly package a player and 2nd round draft pick(s) to move up for him?


Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2017, 09:41:10 AM »

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LeBron James.  8)

Seriously though, either re-sign Kelly Olynyk or get Blake Griffin. Keeping Olynyk gives us cap room to pay our current players who have expiring contracts in '18 or get some non-max talent from free agency and we can still trade or make the Nets pick this year. Blake Griffin is really good at basketball.

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2017, 09:44:37 AM »

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If the Celts end up picking 4... And there isnt a player at 4 Danny really likes...another option could be to trade down for a high ceiling prospect like Justin Patton

Physical tools,  some elite /developing skills for a big man ,  good energy/motor

Draftexpress highlights on Patton uploaded a few days ago

https://youtu.be/VZqbgbdiEtk

This guy looks really good but I am not sure he can be guy we take with our lottery pick. Where is he projected to be drafted? Can Danny possibly package a player and 2nd round draft pick(s) to move up for him?

Depends on which player... But I doubt it
The good players on the roster are soon to be FAs

Crowder maybe able to get you a player late in the lotto

Patton range is around 8-12

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2017, 11:03:46 AM »

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What about trying to trade the 2017 Nets pick for Kristaps Porzingis, who btw is only 21 years old? Porzingis could help contribute immediately, could be the reliable second scorer the Celtics have been looking for, and is similar in age if we used the 2017 draft pick. Also, would we still have money to go after a max player, like Gordon Haywood?

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2017, 11:10:23 AM »

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It's gotta be Draymond Green or...Draymond Green. Maybe Durant or Lebron but that's stretching the limits of this exercise right?

This.

Draymond is exactly where the powerforward position is going. He can basically guard 1-5, he can shoot the 3, run the break, and rebounds. He basically a perfect mix between the small forward and power forward position. He gives your team all the advantages of small ball, with none of the disadvantages.

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2017, 11:21:34 AM »

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What about trying to trade the 2017 Nets pick for Kristaps Porzingis, who btw is only 21 years old? Porzingis could help contribute immediately, could be the reliable second scorer the Celtics have been looking for, and is similar in age if we used the 2017 draft pick. Also, would we still have money to go after a max player, like Gordon Haywood?

Knicks are not trading kristap

To make kristap happy they are trying to trade Melo

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2017, 11:34:10 AM »

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What about trying to trade the 2017 Nets pick for Kristaps Porzingis, who btw is only 21 years old? Porzingis could help contribute immediately, could be the reliable second scorer the Celtics have been looking for, and is similar in age if we used the 2017 draft pick. Also, would we still have money to go after a max player, like Gordon Haywood?

Knicks are not trading kristap

To make kristap happy they are trying to trade Melo

I thought the Knicks were trying to trade Melo to make Phil Jackson happy. As for Porzingis, he didn't exactly leave for the offseason on good terms with Jackson and the Knicks.

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2017, 11:36:14 AM »

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What about trying to trade the 2017 Nets pick for Kristaps Porzingis, who btw is only 21 years old? Porzingis could help contribute immediately, could be the reliable second scorer the Celtics have been looking for, and is similar in age if we used the 2017 draft pick. Also, would we still have money to go after a max player, like Gordon Haywood?

Knicks are not trading kristap

To make kristap happy they are trying to trade Melo

I thought the Knicks were trying to trade Melo to make Phil Jackson happy. As for Porzingis, he didn't exactly leave for the offseason on good terms with Jackson and the Knicks.

He is tired of losing... I see nothing wrong with the way he is acting

Knicks better do something

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2017, 11:57:09 AM »

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What about trying to trade the 2017 Nets pick for Kristaps Porzingis, who btw is only 21 years old? Porzingis could help contribute immediately, could be the reliable second scorer the Celtics have been looking for, and is similar in age if we used the 2017 draft pick. Also, would we still have money to go after a max player, like Gordon Haywood?

Knicks are not trading kristap

To make kristap happy they are trying to trade Melo

I thought the Knicks were trying to trade Melo to make Phil Jackson happy. As for Porzingis, he didn't exactly leave for the offseason on good terms with Jackson and the Knicks.

He is tired of losing... I see nothing wrong with the way he is acting

Knicks better do something

Tired of losing after two seasons? It may also be the organizational dysfunction, which played a part in losing, that lead to Porzingis walking out after the season.

Like I said, the Celtics should "try" to trade for him. I never said it would be realistic, but it seems at least reasonable if we're talking about a top 4 pick.

Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2017, 01:37:26 PM »

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Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2017, 11:35:55 PM »

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From those rumored to be available, it's either Paul George, Blake or Melo.

It's an interesting question. What combination would you rather have:
1. PG13 less Crowder and Smart and no BKN pick
2. Blake and Fultz less KO and other people we'd have to renounce
3. Melo and Fultz less Rozier

(in this scenario, I'm assuming Melo comes cheap).
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Re: Who is the dream fit at PF for the Celtics
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2017, 01:27:56 AM »

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From those rumored to be available, it's either Paul George, Blake or Melo.

It's an interesting question. What combination would you rather have:
1. PG13 less Crowder and Smart and no BKN pick
2. Blake and Fultz less KO and other people we'd have to renounce
3. Melo and Fultz less Rozier

(in this scenario, I'm assuming Melo comes cheap).
I'll take Blake.