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Celtics viewed by Magic as trade targets?
« on: April 04, 2017, 02:45:43 AM »

Offline trickybilly

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Saw this today:

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1270983-did-magic-accidentally-leak-their-targets-for-trades-free-agency

Interesting that only Jerebko and KO are targets.. they both are down the bottom of the list too (whatever that means)

Hope that means KO's value is low generally. Or could be that they just don't like him.
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Re: Celtics viewed by Magic as trade targets?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 04:16:00 AM »

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This is hilarious. I wonder who's on DA's list. Man, how does one apply for a job in the Celtics? 😁
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 06:12:10 AM »

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This is hilarious. I wonder who's on DA's list. Man, how does one apply for a job in the Celtics? 😁

Depends which department you wanna target:

http://www.nba.com/celtics/contact/front-office.html/

I'd probably hit up Austin as a first port of call.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 06:47:30 AM »

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It seems to just be lists of players that are either hybrid 3/4s (the left two lists) or "spread bigs" (the right two lists), not actual trade/FA targets. I can't see them actually considering targeting Ibaka to bring back this summer, so it wouldn't make sense as a list of players they're targeting.

I don't think order matters either, they have Otto Porter between Derrick Williams and Jerebko. He would be above both of order mattered.

The part that I'm intrigued by is in the leftmost list: "Saric (for AG?)". Do the magic really think they could trade 1 year of Gordon (who wouldn't fit in PHI given his lack of shooting) for the likely ROY?
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Re: Celtics viewed by Magic as trade targets?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2017, 07:32:21 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 08:21:32 AM »

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This is hilarious. I wonder who's on DA's list. Man, how does one apply for a job in the Celtics? 😁

Depends which department you wanna target:

http://www.nba.com/celtics/contact/front-office.html/

I'd probably hit up Austin as a first port of call.

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2017, 08:22:24 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.
My first thought was the Orlando Magic, although JJ and KO are free agents they can go to the Magic in a sign and trade so technically the title is not wrong

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 08:48:57 AM »

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It seems to just be lists of players that are either hybrid 3/4s (the left two lists) or "spread bigs" (the right two lists), not actual trade/FA targets. I can't see them actually considering targeting Ibaka to bring back this summer, so it wouldn't make sense as a list of players they're targeting.

I don't think order matters either, they have Otto Porter between Derrick Williams and Jerebko. He would be above both of order mattered.

The part that I'm intrigued by is in the leftmost list: "Saric (for AG?)". Do the magic really think they could trade 1 year of Gordon (who wouldn't fit in PHI given his lack of shooting) for the likely ROY?

Why would their FO make a list of arbitrary NBA players by position / skill?  Out of boredom? Makes no sense, especially considering one notation clearly indicates the idea of a swap.

As for order, price may be a factor (if they're really in any final order at all). Porter is going to be very pricey, while Jerebko is not, for example.

Gordon's agent must be having a field day with what to say when he calls Orlando this morning.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2017, 09:31:58 AM »

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It seems to just be lists of players that are either hybrid 3/4s (the left two lists) or "spread bigs" (the right two lists), not actual trade/FA targets. I can't see them actually considering targeting Ibaka to bring back this summer, so it wouldn't make sense as a list of players they're targeting.

I don't think order matters either, they have Otto Porter between Derrick Williams and Jerebko. He would be above both of order mattered.

The part that I'm intrigued by is in the leftmost list: "Saric (for AG?)". Do the magic really think they could trade 1 year of Gordon (who wouldn't fit in PHI given his lack of shooting) for the likely ROY?

Why would their FO make a list of arbitrary NBA players by position / skill?  Out of boredom? Makes no sense, especially considering one notation clearly indicates the idea of a swap.

As for order, price may be a factor (if they're really in any final order at all). Porter is going to be very pricey, while Jerebko is not, for example.

Gordon's agent must be having a field day with what to say when he calls Orlando this morning.

It's not "a list of arbitrary NBA players by position / skill", it's a list of potentially available players that would fit into their team (the holes that they had Ibaka/Ilyasova/Frye and Jeff Green/Tobias Harris fill/try to fill the past few seasons).  Coming up with a list of players with a skill set you're looking for and that will (or could) be available is one of the first things you should do when looking for players to go after.  That's why it's just on a whiteboard instead of something that can't be accidentally erased by an overzealous janitor.  There's no way they view bringing back Ibaka as a viable option this summer, he's just an available player that fits the skillset they're looking for.

Price could be a factor, but I doubt they'd analyze 50+ players for the amount they'd be worth vs. what they'll likely get paid or what it would take to trade for them.  Plus, I would think they'd get rid of some of the obvious "Don't want him" players (Deng, Ibaka, etc.) and "Don't have a chance at him" players (Otto Porter, Saric, Iguadola, etc.) before going into that much detail.

The more I think about how little sense a Gordon/Saric swap makes, the more worried I am that one of the Colangelos will think it's a great idea and throw in their pick this year for him
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Re: Celtics viewed by Magic as trade targets?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 10:08:11 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.
My first thought was the Orlando Magic, although JJ and KO are free agents they can go to the Magic in a sign and trade so technically the title is not wrong

Technically, it's wrong. They are not "targeted" as trade options where two teams need to reach an agreement, but as free agents. Getting them into a sign and trade for salary cap purposes (well, Orlando is not in trouble at all) would be another thing.

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2017, 10:16:08 AM »

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I can see them chucking a 2 year 20 million deal at Jerebko, and him just taking their money
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 10:17:11 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.

So because you misinterpreted the thread title, you make a post criticizing the OP?  Seriously get a life, this pettiness is why I haven't been on here much anymore. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2017, 11:21:19 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2017, 11:48:33 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.

So because you misinterpreted the thread title, you make a post criticizing the OP?  Seriously get a life, this pettiness is why I haven't been on here much anymore.

I've got a life, thanks for your interest and TP. I only asked (very politely, I believe) the author to clarify the title. It's not a misinterpretation, it's that those players can't actually be traded.

Be here a lot, please  :police:

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2017, 11:56:29 AM »

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If you read the title, it seems Magic Johnson wants to negociate something with us.

Also, Olynyk and Jerebko are (can't be) no trade targets. They are free agents.

Please, be careful with the thread titles so as not to mislead people.
My first thought was the Orlando Magic, although JJ and KO are free agents they can go to the Magic in a sign and trade so technically the title is not wrong

Technically, it's wrong. They are not "targeted" as trade options where two teams need to reach an agreement, but as free agents. Getting them into a sign and trade for salary cap purposes (well, Orlando is not in trouble at all) would be another thing.

KO technically can be a trade target since he's a RFA and the Celtics have the right to match any deal he signs.  Therefore a S&T could be done....