Idea - Sign Hayward, Trade Thomas, Draft

[ThePoeticWolf]

Mind you this post all falls on three factors.  One - Paul George said he'd like to play with Gordon Hayward.  Two - Trade for George could work by trading Thomas for George.  Plus the deal I'm suggesting is the only deal I'd do for George and knowing he'll sign extention and play power forward.  (Know he didn't like it before but with this team he's still be a star there.)  Three - Brooklyn's pick is either the one or two.

Celtics Sign Gordon Hayward in the off-season to a max deal or close to it if we can get him cheaper.

Celtics trade
Isaiah Thomas
Minnesota 2017 second round
Boston 2018 first round
Boston 2019 first round

Pacers trade
Paul George


In this I'm hoping we can resign Smart and Bradley is the best for us.  Bradley stays at the starting Shooting Guard while Smart can start for awhile or can keep off the bench and let the rookie start.

With the Brooklyn pick it know Markelle Fultz and Lonzon Ball are looking to be number 1 and 2.  My preference for this team as I'm looking to construct I think Ball would be a better fit, as he's a better passer from what I've watched and can score just as well.

Starting Five
Center - Horford
Power Forward - George
Small Forward - Hayward
Shooting Guard - Bradley
Point Guard - Ball

Second Unit
Center - Zizic
Power Forward - Yabusele
Small Forward - Crowder
Shooting Guard - Brown
Point Guard - Smart

Depth
Point Guard - Rozier
Power Forward - Mickey
Free Agent or one of the 2nd rounders

I know this would be a stretch to pull off but it's realistic because trading with the Pacers by switching all stars plus sending a couple of 1st rounders to them could work.  Keeps the youth in Boston and depth as our bench if Yabusele and Zizic are as good as made out to be.  If we couldn't extended both Smart and Bradley it wouldn't work as well. 

[iadera]

If you plan to be contender next year, you don't trade your best player and All-Star. You only try to add players to make the team stronger. As clear as that.

[Darío SpanishFan]

I think this trade doesn't make sense for Indy, because if they trade Paul George they are asking at least a very good young player + a high draft pick. Nor for us, as we can't start George as a PF (he won't like it at all) and risk losing him for the Lakers after one year. I wouldn't give Indiana a Brooklyn pick + Brown in exchange for what might be just a rental. Your IFs are too big to overcome.

The "logical" trade with Indy is Thomas for Turner, as long as we'd pick Fultz and signed Hayward as a free agent. This will allow them to convince George to stay (win now mode) and we will keep good in offense (Hayward + Fultz + Turner instead of IT), improve A LOT in defense and extend Bradley + Smart for long.

[td450]

The problem with this scenario is that it creates a huge imbalance on the team. You would have three of the top ten small forwards in the league, plus our most promising young player all fighting for the same minutes. Even subsuming the power forward position completely doesn't provide enough minutes to make all four guys happy.

[Celtics4ever]

I do not care for the drafting of  Lonzo Ball and any plan built around that raises an eyebrow.  I would rather have Jackson or Fultz than ball and all my reasons are basketball ones.   Ball has a weird shot motion, which may work or not work in the NBA.   I know people say K. Martin and Jamaal Wilkes as examples of guys who over came that.

Martin was the most prolific scorer in college

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kevin-martin-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/lonzo-ball-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jamaal-wilkes-1.html

Both of them are better FT shooters than Ball, who shoots  .673%, Martin shot .84%, Wilkes shot .75% .   FT shooting is a good indicator of shooting stroke.

Both of these were great NBA scorers for some time

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/martike02.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wilkeja01.html

Wilkes shot it weird from the FT line, his jumper was behind the head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o37f1cgL0Zo

Martin had a hitch in his shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk0E2FvffKw

Ball has a weird form it goes in some but I think it is the easiest of three to block

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcbr-LY2a6Q

I get Ball is a way better passer and can do a little bit of everything.   But his shot scares me. 

[Ilikesports17]

I could obviously be wrong, but I think the odds of Isaiah Thomas getting traded this offseason are impossibly slim.

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I could obviously be wrong, but I think the odds of Isaiah Thomas getting traded this offseason are impossibly slim.

Right. Who would want him?  Most starting jobs are full already.

[SHAQATTACK]

So would Celtics win more games replacing IT with Hayward ?

Is Hayward more likely to help in a playoff series than IT ?

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So would Celtics win more games replacing IT with Hayward ?

Is Hayward more likely to help in a playoff series than IT ?

Absolutely yes on both points.  The only loss is in points, and someone else will take those 20 shots, plus do something else at an NBA level, which IT doesn't provide.

I'm not really into crunching the numbers like many others do, but looking at IT his year, aside from scoring, I'm not even sure he's a rotation player. Barely journeyman, minimum contract production in the rest of the stat line. I'm sure some will be offended by that.

[Ogaju]

yeah but its kinda big deal when you are putting up almost 30 per game.