Jaylen/Josh Jackson Combo makes us contenders in 3 years

[slightly biased bias fan]

I Love Brown but a small part of me is still burning we didn't get Simmons (even though he's injured) he would have been the perfect player for this team as a Draymond Green type ball handling combo guard, he's a great rebounder (needed), playmaker (needed) and eventually switch defender.

Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Simmons
Horford

Brown is the right fit

Simmons gave up on his studies... His defensive effort is inconsistent

Don't get me wrong I really love Brown and his intensity, I also love the fact he was in Simmons shadow essentially his whole life and I can tell he plays with a drive and chip on his shoulder because of it but Simmons is a better all round player atm (minus his vertical) and reading about his time at LSU he hated it and was just used as a shop window...you can say the same for most elite players, for god sakes Kyrie Irving 'attended' Duke and thinks the world is flat.

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I don't know about the 'in 3 years' part, but I would love a in-the-future lineup of starting wings of Brown and Jackson as long as they both can improve their 3 point shooting a bit.  If Smart could keep improving and if eventually IT becomes too expensive due to some other signings....

PG Smart
SG Brown
SF Jackson

That lineup has size, super def ability, length to attack the rim.  Just would depend on development of the 3 point shots for all 3 of them.

I think long term Brown and Jackson would be more likely to be a 3/4 combo than a 2/3 combo

Why do you say that?  Brown has started at the 2 for us right now.  I know Jackson could probably add some weight to his frame, but his strengths for his size are his ball handling ability and the ability to get to the rim.  I think for the short term we benefit from them at the 2/3 more.

[GRADYCOLNON]

I hope Jackson comes out as the better player than fultz.  Don't think I could deal with Fultz's lack of effort problems

[hwangjini_1]

Who's going to be able to shoot threes and spread the floor with Smart, Jackson, and Brown?

jackson is currently shooting 37.8% from 3 point land for the season.

smart has shot around 33% to 35% since december 23rd.

brown has shot 35.3 over the past month.

so, the answer to your question may be ... all of them! 

while these are small sample sizes, nonetheless they at least give room for hope for all three.

[hwangjini_1]

I hope Jackson comes out as the better player than fultz.  Don't think I could deal with Fultz's lack of effort problems

just curious, but what problems are those? any sources for this? thanks.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Jackson doesn't just shoot the 3 at 37%+, but he also FAKES them like crazy and gets to the hoop at will in single coverage from the 3 point line with a quick pump fake.  Josh Jackson is the only prospect out right now who has highlight videos where he's scoring 25+ and multiple plays included are just him hustling for a loose ball that the video editors include anyways.  If we get him or Fultz then I'm happy with no other moves other than adding Zizic.   

[hwangjini_1]

Jackson doesn't just shoot the 3 at 37%+, but he also FAKES them like crazy and gets to the hoop at will in single coverage from the 3 point line with a quick pump fake.  Josh Jackson is the only prospect out right now who has highlight videos where he's scoring 25+ and multiple plays included are just him hustling for a loose ball that the video editors include anyways.  If we get him or Fultz then I'm happy with no other moves other than adding Zizic.   

agreed. i would be very happy if ainge took jackson even with the #1 pick. the kid has endless energy and drive to go with great ability. if his three point shooting is for real, he's my choice for #1 pick.

[Jon]

I like the positional fit of Jackson too, but if he's Jeff Green and Fultz is James Harden, you have to go with Fultz regardless of the logjam in the back court.

[hwangjini_1]

here is something i just read over on SoSH. impressive stuff on jaylen:

"He's now shooting over 50% on corner threes, which is great. Hope the Cs keep him so we can watch him grow into the beast he's destined to be.

Here's an article with some advanced stats, a couple of which are in the following paragraph:

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4725369/rook-to-corner-3-jaylen-brown-making-big-plays-for-celtics

"A check of Synergy Sports' defensive data has Brown in the 88th percentile among all defenders, holding opponents to 0.805 points per play. In fact, Synergy's data suggests that, among all players with at least 300 players defended, Brown ranks 15th in the league in points allowed per play. (That's just four spots behind Golden State's Draymond Green at 0.798 points per play.)""

[saltlover]

I like the positional fit of Jackson too, but if he's Jeff Green and Fultz is James Harden, you have to go with Fultz regardless of the logjam in the back court.

He's not Jeff Green in the slightest.  I'm not sure what he'll become, but it won't be Jeff Green.

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I like the positional fit of Jackson too, but if he's Jeff Green and Fultz is James Harden, you have to go with Fultz regardless of the logjam in the back court.

Jackson hasn't looked tentative or over-rated when I watched him (if that is what the Jeff Green reference is to, I am not even sure what it means anymore other than good player who isn't an alpha dog?)

It may be a tough choice between Fultz and Jackson if it comes down to that ie, we get #1 pick.  I am not sold on Ball's shot right now.

[droopdog7]

Jackson doesn't just shoot the 3 at 37%+, but he also FAKES them like crazy and gets to the hoop at will in single coverage from the 3 point line with a quick pump fake.  Josh Jackson is the only prospect out right now who has highlight videos where he's scoring 25+ and multiple plays included are just him hustling for a loose ball that the video editors include anyways.  If we get him or Fultz then I'm happy with no other moves other than adding Zizic.   

Is 37% at the college 3 good?  I would not be confident that Jackson is going to come in and be a good shooter, especially given the long wind up.  He'll likely need to work on that.

[Rosco917]

Always draft what is considered the best talent available. Fultz has a chance to be special.

Valuable assets can always be traded for other assets of another position. 

[cltc5]

My pick is jackson

[mr. dee]

I like the positional fit of Jackson too, but if he's Jeff Green and Fultz is James Harden, you have to go with Fultz regardless of the logjam in the back court.

He's not Jeff Green in the slightest.  I'm not sure what he'll become, but it won't be Jeff Green.

Fultz is much closer to Jeff Green as far as motor goes.