Ainge Explains Why He Didn't Make A Minor Move For Rebounding..

[Clench123]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

All these things are unreasonable?

We have players that are more skilled

we play around our strengths.

Al’s presence makes those guys all better.

We have the floor spread and we have skilled bigs

Al is leading NBA centers in assists this year, and that’s the way that we play

we don’t have a great rebounding team from a personnel standpoint, but we also don’t play a great rebounding style, in that we rely on our bigs to play out on the perimeter and make plays and make passes and open up the court up for our guards.

[Rebounding] is a weakness

Nobody's asking you to agree with Ainge's decision.  But saying that everything he said is unreasonable says more about your willingness to listen to what he has to say than anything else

We have players that are more skilled

Until they run into better players. 

we play around our strengths.

Limiting our weaknesses by making a needed trade would be even better.  Playing to our strengths can only take us so far, first round.

Al’s presence makes those guys all better.

Yes, this is true.  However, he's a 30 year old making 26 million a year to put up measly 14 ppg with little to no rebounding skills. 

We have the floor spread and we have skilled bigs

LOL.  We have skilled bigs?  Olynyk?  Zeller?  LOL.

Al is leading NBA centers in assists this year, and that’s the way that we play

I'd rather he's better in creating shots and putting up better numbers than assist.

[Ilikesports17]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

why don't you do his job then?

I bet I could, if it means sitting on my ass, overplaying my hand, not making any moves, drafting useless guards, continuous refusal to address team's desperate need, and standing pat when the deal isn't a steal for me.  Easiest job.

[PAOBoston]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

Dude, you're fighting a losing battle.
There's a sentiment among our fans who don't care about what's right or wrong, all they want is things to go their way, and if they don't, they throw a temper tantrum.

Probably the same people who got upset about trading Al Jefferson for KG or Ainge not drafting Robert Upshaw with a first round pick.

It'll pass. Just reactionary comments.

[Clench123]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

why don't you do his job then?

I bet I could, if it means sitting on my ass, overplaying my hand, not making any moves, drafting useless guards, continuous refusal to address team's desperate need, and standing pat when the deal isn't a steal for me.  Easiest job.

I love that gif.  Would you post that again come playoffs, please?  I really like it.

[Clench123]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

why don't you do his job then?

I bet I could, if it means sitting on my ass, overplaying my hand, not making any moves, drafting useless guards, continuous refusal to address team's desperate need, and standing pat when the deal isn't a steal for me.  Easiest job.

Nice gifs.  Basically what I'll be posting in 7 years when this team still in the trying-to-figure-things-out mode. 

[Chief Macho]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

Dude, you're fighting a losing battle.
There's a sentiment among our fans who don't care about what's right or wrong, all they want is things to go their way, and if they don't, they throw a temper tantrum.

Give me a break.  I get what Stevens wants to do.  He thinks offensive efficiency is paramount to adding a player may help the plus/minus of rebounding stats.  I just know that there is a tipping point in that type of play.  And the celtics right now are often flirting with it.   

[littleteapot]

I don't necessarily disagree, but I guess my point is that simply improving the defensive rebounding wouldn't really move the needle that much for this team unless you're adding a guy who can also help you in the pick and roll and near the rim without sacrificing the integrity of the perimeter defense.

Worth noting that at least going by stats, the C's defensive mediocrity mostly comes from rebounding.

We are 7th in opposing eFG%, 15th in turnover% and while we're 25th in opposing free throw attempts per possession the real outlier is the defensive rebounding. We're actually good at getting other teams to take bad shots, and while we're not great at defending without fouling, it's not bad enough to make up for the shooting percentages. If we could have acquired a guy like Noel who I personally think wouldn't have made us significantly better or worse on defense than we are now I think the rebounding would have made a huge difference on our overall defense.

The question is does that kill you on the offensive end of the floor. It may well be that it does.

[BitterJim]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

yes.

I don't even have anything to add to this.  I hope it's just an example of Poe's Law

[BitterJim]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

All these things are unreasonable?

We have players that are more skilled

we play around our strengths.

Al’s presence makes those guys all better.

We have the floor spread and we have skilled bigs

Al is leading NBA centers in assists this year, and that’s the way that we play

we don’t have a great rebounding team from a personnel standpoint, but we also don’t play a great rebounding style, in that we rely on our bigs to play out on the perimeter and make plays and make passes and open up the court up for our guards.

[Rebounding] is a weakness

Nobody's asking you to agree with Ainge's decision.  But saying that everything he said is unreasonable says more about your willingness to listen to what he has to say than anything else

We have players that are more skilled

Until they run into better players. 

we play around our strengths.

Limiting our weaknesses by making a needed trade would be even better.  Playing to our strengths can only take us so far, first round.

Al’s presence makes those guys all better.

Yes, this is true.  However, he's a 30 year old making 26 million a year to put up measly 14 ppg with little to no rebounding skills. 

We have the floor spread and we have skilled bigs

LOL.  We have skilled bigs?  Olynyk?  Zeller?  LOL.

Al is leading NBA centers in assists this year, and that’s the way that we play

I'd rather he's better in creating shots and putting up better numbers than assist.

Just gonna leave this here:

You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" "unreasonable" is just lazy.

And, I'm sorry, but are you saying that we don't have skilled bigs? I... I don't even know what to say about that

[SparzWizard]

Rebounds win championships.

[JaylenBrown7]

Rebounding wins championships no doubt. Rebounding doesnt win championships when you put a one trick pony who can grab rebounds and ruin the offense because of it. If ainge had the right deal for a rebounder and someone who he thought could have helped in other areas then their would have been a trade. There wasnt , our rebounding will still be bad but at least we still function well as a group. Ainge and brad's BBAL IQ> any person in this thread

[BitterJim]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

Dude, you're fighting a losing battle.
There's a sentiment among our fans who don't care about what's right or wrong, all they want is things to go their way, and if they don't, they throw a temper tantrum.

I honestly think there are some people here who would rather validate their belief that Danny is stupid than win a championship.  Like, people would rather have Danny Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. up a deal and ruin the position we're in than win a championship because it would mean that they were wrong.

I don't understand it. If Danny had made a move that put us in contention this year I would be ecstatic even though I was calling for him to stand pat.

[Dannys Chipotle Guy]

Excuses, excuses, excuses.  More excuses on why you failed at your job again, Danny. 

You don't think rebounding is important?  Let's see how your overrated guards hold up in the playoffs against a good rebounding team.

These aren't excuses, their reasons. You don't have to agree with the reasons, but not even making an effort to understand his reasoning and just dismissing it as "excuses" is just lazy.

He didn't "fail at his job", because his job is not to make trades to satisfy impatient fans or to try and make the ECF.  His job is to win championships, and nothing he did yesterday moved us further away from that or made it impossible.

And he isn't saying that rebounding isn't important, he's saying that rebounding is not more important than fit in our offense.  This team is a lot better with a skilled big like Horford or Olynyk in there than a guy who's only skill is rebounding. If you can get a guy that can rebound and is skilled, go for it (Jones, maybe?). But don't sacrifice the offense for an extra 1 or 2 rebounds a game.

Nothing he said is reasonable.  Not one thing.

why don't you do his job then?

I bet I could, if it means sitting on my ass, overplaying my hand, not making any moves, drafting useless guards, continuous refusal to address team's desperate need, and standing pat when the deal isn't a steal for me.  Easiest job.

[Casperian]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

Dude, you're fighting a losing battle.
There's a sentiment among our fans who don't care about what's right or wrong, all they want is things to go their way, and if they don't, they throw a temper tantrum.

Give me a break.  I get what Stevens wants to do.  He thinks offensive efficiency is paramount to adding a player may help the plus/minus of rebounding stats.  I just know that there is a tipping point in that type of play.  And the celtics right now are often flirting with it.   

The Celtics right now have won 37 games so far and are on course to win 53 games.

Since you "know" your stuff, and didn't just pull it out of your ass, care to tell me when exactly we will reach that tipping point?

[saltlover]

Sounds like he's parroting Stevens words from earlier this season.  It's mostly bull**** though. See how it works out for you in the playoffs when defense is tighter and rebounding wins game.   ****s.

Honest question: Do you think that you understand basketball better than Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens?

Dude, you're fighting a losing battle.
There's a sentiment among our fans who don't care about what's right or wrong, all they want is things to go their way, and if they don't, they throw a temper tantrum.

I honestly think there are some people here who would rather validate their belief that Danny is stupid than win a championship.  Like, people would rather have Danny **** up a deal and ruin the position we're in than win a championship because it would mean that they were wrong.

I don't understand it. If Danny had made a move that put us in contention this year I would be ecstatic even though I was calling for him to stand pat.

The ignore list is very useful.  Mine just grew by one today.