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Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« on: February 22, 2017, 10:37:16 AM »

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Obviously the C's will continue to monitor the Butler and PG13 situations until tomorrow 2:59PM.

But we've heard they are interested in Tucker, and Bogut, and there was even a small tidbit that said they were looking at Gallinari as an option. But how about Kyle O'Quinn? Haven't heard a thing on him, but maybe as we've seen before, he's the "unexpected target" of Ainge's (the one no one hears about until the trade is made lol).

He's also under contract next year at a "dollar store" rate of 4M, and is a good rebounder (not a rental or "bandaid player" as Ainge would call it).

He wouldn't affect cap flexibility much next season and they could still draft Fultz/Ball/Jackson and sign a max FA. I wouldn't mind giving up a 2018 BOS 1st rounder for him (likely pick 25-28) if that's all it really took (and a smaller asset as well).

But maybe the Knicks are only making him available to Boston IF they take back Melo?  :P


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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 10:39:37 AM »

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Who is PG13?

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 10:40:36 AM »

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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 10:41:41 AM »

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Who is PG13?

Somebody that has nearly 3000 posts is asking who PG13 is? Really?

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 10:41:53 AM »

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I assume O'Quinn isn't available.  Maybe as you say as a part of a bigger trade, but in a straight up trade for him, why would NY move him?
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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 10:43:03 AM »

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Who is PG13?

Somebody that has nearly 3000 posts is asking who PG13 is? Really?

Sorry, not a Paul George fan.

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2017, 10:43:09 AM »

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I assume O'Quinn isn't available.  Maybe as you say as a part of a bigger trade, but in a straight up trade for him, why would NY move him?

For a team that's rebuilding or at least has the common sense to see that is where they are headed... A future first round pick for O'Quinn doesn't sound bad at all.
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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
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I assume O'Quinn isn't available.  Maybe as you say as a part of a bigger trade, but in a straight up trade for him, why would NY move him?

I actually really like his fit next to Porzingis so I am with you.

Also he could help this team, I just fear he wouldn't move the needle very much.
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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 10:44:17 AM »

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Obviously the C's will continue to monitor the Butler and PG13 situations until tomorrow 2:59PM.

But we've heard they are interested in Tucker, and Bogut, and there was even a small tidbit that said they were looking at Gallinari as an option. But how about Kyle O'Quinn? Haven't heard a thing on him, but maybe as we've seen before, he's the "unexpected target" of Ainge's (the one no one hears about until the trade is made lol).

He's also under contract next year at a "dollar store" rate of 4M, and is a good rebounder (not a rental or "bandaid player" as Ainge would call it).

He wouldn't affect cap flexibility much next season and they could still draft Fultz/Ball/Jackson and sign a max FA. I wouldn't mind giving up a 2018 BOS 1st rounder for him (likely pick 25-28) if that's all it really took (and a smaller asset as well).

But maybe the Knicks are only making him available to Boston IF they take back Melo?  :P

This is 100% incorrect.

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2017, 10:45:22 AM »

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Perhaps O'Quinn isn't available. Just because some fans have a crush on him doesn't mean he is available for trade. Also, Ainge has stated he isn't going to make a small move that would hurt his cap flexibility for this summer, which O'Quinn would.

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2017, 10:47:16 AM »

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I assume O'Quinn isn't available.  Maybe as you say as a part of a bigger trade, but in a straight up trade for him, why would NY move him?

For a team that's rebuilding or at least has the common sense to see that is where they are headed... A future first round pick for O'Quinn doesn't sound bad at all.
He is signed cheaply, is a quality player, and doesn't hurt a rebuilding team at all.  Unless they think they will get a player better than O'Quinn from the draft pick there is absolutely no reason at all for the Knicks to move him.  Given as you say the only picks Boston would move for him are likely to be late 1st round picks, the odds of getting someone better than him are very small.  Thus, I ask again, why would the Knicks move him in that sort of trade?   I certainly think if you are taking Melo, Rose, or Noah off their hands you might be able to also get O'Quinn, but there is absolutely no reason at all for the Knicks to move O'Quinn straight up for a future late 1st round pick.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 10:52:16 AM »

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Obviously the C's will continue to monitor the Butler and PG13 situations until tomorrow 2:59PM.

But we've heard they are interested in Tucker, and Bogut, and there was even a small tidbit that said they were looking at Gallinari as an option. But how about Kyle O'Quinn? Haven't heard a thing on him, but maybe as we've seen before, he's the "unexpected target" of Ainge's (the one no one hears about until the trade is made lol).

He's also under contract next year at a "dollar store" rate of 4M, and is a good rebounder (not a rental or "bandaid player" as Ainge would call it).

He wouldn't affect cap flexibility much next season and they could still draft Fultz/Ball/Jackson and sign a max FA. I wouldn't mind giving up a 2018 BOS 1st rounder for him (likely pick 25-28) if that's all it really took (and a smaller asset as well).

But maybe the Knicks are only making him available to Boston IF they take back Melo?  :P

This is 100% incorrect.

Are they still short if they let go of all their pending FA's and Olynyk doesn't come back?

How about if by chance Noel is available and doesn't sign max but near max?
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Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 11:34:25 AM »

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Obviously the C's will continue to monitor the Butler and PG13 situations until tomorrow 2:59PM.

But we've heard they are interested in Tucker, and Bogut, and there was even a small tidbit that said they were looking at Gallinari as an option. But how about Kyle O'Quinn? Haven't heard a thing on him, but maybe as we've seen before, he's the "unexpected target" of Ainge's (the one no one hears about until the trade is made lol).

He's also under contract next year at a "dollar store" rate of 4M, and is a good rebounder (not a rental or "bandaid player" as Ainge would call it).

He wouldn't affect cap flexibility much next season and they could still draft Fultz/Ball/Jackson and sign a max FA. I wouldn't mind giving up a 2018 BOS 1st rounder for him (likely pick 25-28) if that's all it really took (and a smaller asset as well).

But maybe the Knicks are only making him available to Boston IF they take back Melo?  :P

This is 100% incorrect.

Are they still short if they let go of all their pending FA's and Olynyk doesn't come back?

How about if by chance Noel is available and doesn't sign max but near max?

Right now for a 7-9 max they are between $1-3 million short (depending if we pick 1-4th), including letting Olynyk go.  Adding O'Quinn means you're $4.25-6.25 million short of that max.  You'd have room for Noel at max or near max if you let Olynyk walk, but I don't really understand trading for O'Quinn and then signing Noel, since they seem somewhat redundant on a team that likes to stretch the floor.

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 11:35:03 AM »

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maybe we are, but you just dont know it?

Re: Why Aren't We After Kyle O'Quinn?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2017, 11:40:37 AM »

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Because, to put it shortly, he sucks. He also does not do anything we can't already get from Olynyk or Zeller.
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