As Most Of Us Believed/Hoped, Ainge Is Staying The Patient Course...

[tankcity!]

I can see the wisdom in staying patient given that even with Cousins, the Celts probably aren't challenging Cleveland or Golden State in the next few years.

Still, I'm not so sure that a better opportunity to use those assets to get a superstar comes along between now and when the Celts' assets have all turned into known quantities and the current core guys are past their prime.

After all, better to be very good and maybe not as good as the best teams than to be pretty good and a very significant step below those teams, as the Celts are now. We have reason to believe they will get better just by drafting and developing. But we don't know for sure that they will.

This is my main concern as well. I think it's clear Butler isn't on Cousin's level.

[fantankerous]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

None and slim

Golden State.

Also, Duncan-era Spurs and Bird-era Celtics.  I'd put the percentage as less than three percent.

[Roy H.]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

None and slim

Golden State.

Also, Duncan-era Spurs and Bird-era Celtics.  I'd put the percentage as less than three percent.

Yep, draft a first ballot HOFer and you have a chance.

[cltc5]

I voted "small addition(s)"

Tucker, T. Jones, KOQ, Okafor...2 of those 4 would be nice right now. Nothing too costly.

Many of us look at this as a hugely missed opportunity with Cousins. I get that.

The worse thing to do now is to react because of it and make a "big" move giving up a bunch of assets to satisfy that empty feeling that perceived missed opportunity brings. A lot of bad decisions in life are made that way.

Stay the course, BPA in this loaded draft  and either Hayward (#1) or Milsap(#2) in FA for free and still have all those assets to either roll with, trade or some combination theeof.

What's the point of accruing assets if you're gonna do nothing with them.  Half our assets are either overseas or on the bench. Either freakin use them or get rid of them.  So sick of watching deadline after deadline pass and we get nothing.  Horford was the best we got! Aging Horford!  Either build now to win and use those assets to get cousins, which he Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ed up or take those assets and start developing them in the NBA.  The team assembled is a second round exit.  Why not bring those assets overand see what they can do. Move Mickey young and rozier and bring in Nader and zizic.  I don't care Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.in do something already!  I'm still p---ed about not getting cousins.  That kid woulda been loved in Boston and this might have been the place to change him...no we get to look at olynyk sorry ass again.  I'll be the first to sign a petition that ainge and Brad go if they Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. up this draft, the summer, and this tradeline another year!

[BitterJim]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

What percentage of teams making huge mid-season trades win titles?

What are the chances that any of our trades would be enough to lift the team to a title?

Any way of building toward a title fails far more often than not because only 1 team out of 30 wins every year.

[cltc5]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

None and slim

Golden State.

Also, Duncan-era Spurs and Bird-era Celtics.  I'd put the percentage as less than three percent.

Yep, draft a first ballot HOFer and you have a chance.

I don't see one this year.  Wiggins was the man a couple years ago and he's not exactly on par.  And most of this draft is that style of player.

[cltc5]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

What percentage of teams making huge mid-season trades win titles?

What are the chances that any of our trades would be enough to lift the team to a title?

Any way of building toward a title fails far more often than not because only 1 team out of 30 wins every year.

With love out and if we got cousins. We'd push Cleveland to 7

[BitterJim]

I voted "small addition(s)"

Tucker, T. Jones, KOQ, Okafor...2 of those 4 would be nice right now. Nothing too costly.

Many of us look at this as a hugely missed opportunity with Cousins. I get that.

The worse thing to do now is to react because of it and make a "big" move giving up a bunch of assets to satisfy that empty feeling that perceived missed opportunity brings. A lot of bad decisions in life are made that way.

Stay the course, BPA in this loaded draft  and either Hayward (#1) or Milsap(#2) in FA for free and still have all those assets to either roll with, trade or some combination theeof.

What's the point of accruing assets if you're gonna do nothing with them.  Half our assets are either overseas or on the bench. Either freakin use them or get rid of them.  So sick of watching deadline after deadline pass and we get nothing.  Horford was the best we got! Aging Horford!  Either build now to win and use those assets to get cousins, which he ****ed up or take those assets and start developing them in the NBA.  The team assembled is a second round exit.  Why not bring those assets overand see what they can do. Move Mickey young and rozier and bring in Nader and zizic.  I don't care ****in do something already!  I'm still p---ed about not getting cousins.  That kid woulda been loved in Boston and this might have been the place to change him...no we get to look at olynyk sorry ass again.  I'll be the first to sign a petition that ainge and Brad go if they **** up this draft, the summer, and this tradeline another year!

Not doing anything with them yet =/= Never doing anything with them

Learn some patience.

[Denis998]

Hard for me to place a vote in for this one. All I can say is I trust Danny, and am confident in any decisions he makes going forward. He has consistently made the right decisions, which resulted in the team getting markedly better year to year.

[Roy H.]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

What percentage of teams making huge mid-season trades win titles?

What are the chances that any of our trades would be enough to lift the team to a title?

Any way of building toward a title fails far more often than not because only 1 team out of 30 wins every year.

You know what teams don't win titles? Teams without elite talent. Teams with one all-star aren't going to compete, unless that one all-star is Hakeem.

[tankcity!]

I voted "small addition(s)"

Tucker, T. Jones, KOQ, Okafor...2 of those 4 would be nice right now. Nothing too costly.

Many of us look at this as a hugely missed opportunity with Cousins. I get that.

The worse thing to do now is to react because of it and make a "big" move giving up a bunch of assets to satisfy that empty feeling that perceived missed opportunity brings. A lot of bad decisions in life are made that way.

Stay the course, BPA in this loaded draft  and either Hayward (#1) or Milsap(#2) in FA for free and still have all those assets to either roll with, trade or some combination theeof.

What's the point of accruing assets if you're gonna do nothing with them.  Half our assets are either overseas or on the bench. Either freakin use them or get rid of them.  So sick of watching deadline after deadline pass and we get nothing.  Horford was the best we got! Aging Horford!  Either build now to win and use those assets to get cousins, which he ****ed up or take those assets and start developing them in the NBA.  The team assembled is a second round exit.  Why not bring those assets overand see what they can do. Move Mickey young and rozier and bring in Nader and zizic.  I don't care ****in do something already!  I'm still p---ed about not getting cousins.  That kid woulda been loved in Boston and this might have been the place to change him...no we get to look at olynyk sorry ass again.  I'll be the first to sign a petition that ainge and Brad go if they **** up this draft, the summer, and this tradeline another year!

Not doing anything with them yet =/= Never doing anything with them

Learn some patience.

Where do you think we will go from here? Are you saying the price on Butler is now increased? I mean you have less leverage when there are less superstars in the market...You can't argue the the Pelicans didn't give up much. So isn't that why we make trades, to win them?

[cltc5]

I voted "small addition(s)"

Tucker, T. Jones, KOQ, Okafor...2 of those 4 would be nice right now. Nothing too costly.

Many of us look at this as a hugely missed opportunity with Cousins. I get that.

The worse thing to do now is to react because of it and make a "big" move giving up a bunch of assets to satisfy that empty feeling that perceived missed opportunity brings. A lot of bad decisions in life are made that way.

Stay the course, BPA in this loaded draft  and either Hayward (#1) or Milsap(#2) in FA for free and still have all those assets to either roll with, trade or some combination theeof.

What's the point of accruing assets if you're gonna do nothing with them.  Half our assets are either overseas or on the bench. Either freakin use them or get rid of them.  So sick of watching deadline after deadline pass and we get nothing.  Horford was the best we got! Aging Horford!  Either build now to win and use those assets to get cousins, which he ****ed up or take those assets and start developing them in the NBA.  The team assembled is a second round exit.  Why not bring those assets overand see what they can do. Move Mickey young and rozier and bring in Nader and zizic.  I don't care ****in do something already!  I'm still p---ed about not getting cousins.  That kid woulda been loved in Boston and this might have been the place to change him...no we get to look at olynyk sorry ass again.  I'll be the first to sign a petition that ainge and Brad go if they **** up this draft, the summer, and this tradeline another year!

Not doing anything with them yet =/= Never doing anything with them

Learn some patience.

So learn patience until....another group of assets come along then another then another ?  Um no, ainges job is to build a team not assets.  Every player on our team is tradeable. That means we've not upgraded to solidify a unit capable of staying together and competing for years. We've had 3 years of moveable parts which danny didn't move and that's all we're gonna have for years to come at this rate.  You wanna sit back and enjoy that?  Have fun.  I'd like to see another title

[fairweatherfan]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

None and slim

Golden State.

Also, Duncan-era Spurs and Bird-era Celtics.  I'd put the percentage as less than three percent.

90s Bulls.  80s/90s Pistons. 

[Androslav]

Danny remained calm and I love it.

Looking through the rosiest glasses, summer of '17 can bring us:
- Top overall pick, idealy Fultz
- Max or near max player, idealy Hayward
- Žižić, idealy a true starting 5 in a year or two
- Imense trade opportunities, at the best time for trading assets. During the offseason. When teams choose their general direction. With that said, idealy Paul George.
Even if all those four aspects of roster improvement hit at about 70% of the desired outcome, we are set to be contenders longterm. Our Depth will hopefuly cover all the injury risks.
That is all with no baggage and our culture preserved.
Those risks that DMC brings aren't that small, as it is evidenced by his actual trade value.

P.S. (De)Marcus is (not) a Smart (type of) player.

[CoachBo]

What percentage of teams that build patiently with draft picks win titles?

What are the chances that any of our picks become all-stars, let alone HOF superstars (the type of draft picks that lift teams to titles).

What percentage of teams making huge mid-season trades win titles?

What are the chances that any of our trades would be enough to lift the team to a title?

Any way of building toward a title fails far more often than not because only 1 team out of 30 wins every year.

You know what teams don't win titles? Teams without elite talent. Teams with one all-star aren't going to compete, unless that one all-star is Hakeem.

This X 1000

TP.