Gordon Hayward

[Stig]

I think DA believes he has a chance to land Hayward, just like he thought he had a chance landing KD, so I don't think there is a "wink wink nod nod" agreement, for Hayward it definitely makes more sense for him to stay, we'd have to go after him really hard to have a real chance. But anything can happen between now and summer. DA staying put is more likely because there's no good deal rather than betting on Hayward coming this summer.

I do agree we may need to move Crowder if Hayward joins, but we don't have to do it now, we can wait after Hayward joins and see how things work out.

[Irish Stew]

What if the team was thinking of moving AB and playing Hayward at SG?

I think that would work. Or they could move AB, play Smart at SG, Hayward at SF and Crowder at PF

Couldn't we do Cauley-Stein and Casspi for Bradley? I love Crowder's contract.

[jbpats]

Am I the only one who prefers Crowder to Hayward as our starting forward? More efficient scorer and better defender. And contract is so sweet. Hayward minus Crowder moves needle in wrong direction.

GH is one of my favorite players in the NBA but I agree with you. First I'll say I believe Hayward is a superior player to Crowder, that being said Hayward at max money vs. Crowder for what $7 mil a season is really a no brainer. Hayward is not 4x's the player crowder is, hell he might not even be 2x's. You keep Jay, develop Jaylen and you use that money in positions of bigger need (ex Center). I think Ainge would be foolish to make this move.

[Cman]

DA staying put is more likely because there's no good deal rather than betting on Hayward coming this summer.

Agreed. DA has shown time and time again, that he's not afraid to deal (his nickname is "trader Danny" right?). He'll deal if he thinks there's a good deal.

[jmen788]

We don't need Hayward. Overrated and overpaid.
We need a big who can defend and rebound.

But if we got Hayward we could trade Bradley and or Crowder with pick(s) for a big man... Regarding Hayward at SG - maybe, but what about Smart?

[KingofDaPlayazBall]

Celtics fans that are still talking about him need to shut it cause its starting to get disrespectful.  Why would we spent max money on a player only to the marginally better at the SF position.  We have Jae of a 7mil/year contract and you want to switch that into a max contract for someone who is a borderline star?  Not only that we also have Jaylen Brown who might develop in to a weapon real soon and there's also a good possibility of us drafting a Josh Jackson.  With Al Hordord already taking up a max, overpaying for another max contract would be disastrous. 

PS all things considered I believe the overall package Crowder brings is on par with Gordan Hayward, hes a lockdown defender and an emotional leader.

[droopdog7]

Harward is better than Jae; clearly better.  So in that sense, no issues putting him on the team.  And if Jae is as valuable as some think, then we should be able to easily flip him for another asset.

That said, not sure it would be the best move.  Would have to see what else were available as I would not necessarily put on the all-court press to get hayward.

[KingofDaPlayazBall]

Im pretty sure we could flip Jae for another asset just like we also could with Isaiah Thomas and Marcus Smart, but clearly they are not being moved because they are too valuable to the team.  And like I said its not like we only have Jae, we also have brown and possibly Josh Jackson, Hayward shouldn't even be seriously considered by the front office or the fans

[saltlover]

For the 1 billionth time, Crowder and Hayward can play next to each other.  If the Celtics sign Hayward, it is most likely that Bradley will be moved, because his contract is shorter, he clears more cap room by being moved, and we're more likely to draft an elite prospect at his position.  The starting lineup (when healthy) would likely be one of the following:

IT/Hayward/Crowder/Olynyk/Horford
IT/Smart/Hayward/Crowder/Horford
IT/Brown/Hayward/Crowder/Horford

I think IT/Smart/Hayward/Crowder/Horford finishes the game.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Im pretty sure we could flip Jae for another asset just like we also could with Isaiah Thomas and Marcus Smart, but clearly they are not being moved because they are too valuable to the team.  And like I said its not like we only have Jae, we also have brown and possibly Josh Jackson, Hayward shouldn't even be seriously considered by the front office or the fans

He should be considered. We have to add talent to compete. We also have cap room. All avenues need to be explored. All our young guys will have bird rights so we can go over the cap to sign them. The question on Hayward is he the best investment of our cap room. He could be if no other leads materialize but i think a big is way to go or hold the line and build through the draft. Heyward would be even better in our system.

[Evantime34]

For the 1 billionth time, Crowder and Hayward can play next to each other.  If the Celtics sign Hayward, it is most likely that Bradley will be moved, because his contract is shorter, he clears more cap room by being moved, and we're more likely to draft an elite prospect at his position.  The starting lineup (when healthy) would likely be one of the following:

IT/Hayward/Crowder/Olynyk/Horford
IT/Smart/Hayward/Crowder/Horford
IT/Brown/Hayward/Crowder/Horford

I think IT/Smart/Hayward/Crowder/Horford finishes the game.

TP!

Adding Hayward would also make it easier to package other players to improve. Trading Crowder , Bradley and picks for a star level player makes a lot more sense if Hayward is in the fold.

[Androslav]

When you can get a good young healthy player for no asset but cap space, you have to do it IMO.
I agree AB would be the odd man out in that scenario.
Possibly as a part of even bigger deal.

[Androslav]

When you can get a good young healthy player for no asset but cap space, you have to do it IMO. Especially, if he is a wing. I agree AB would be the odd man out along the road. Possibly as a part of even bigger deal.

[Csfan1984]

What if the team was thinking of moving AB and playing Hayward at SG?

I think that would work. Or they could move AB, play Smart at SG, Hayward at SF and Crowder at PF

Couldn't we do Cauley-Stein and Casspi for Bradley? I love Crowder's contract.

That's not a bad deal at all if you like WCS. Some people don't. I could see the Kings pulling the trigger for that deal without a doubt.

[mahcus smaht]

What if the team was thinking of moving AB and playing Hayward at SG?

I think that would work. Or they could move AB, play Smart at SG, Hayward at SF and Crowder at PF

Couldn't we do Cauley-Stein and Casspi for Bradley? I love Crowder's contract.

That's not a bad deal at all if you like WCS. Some people don't. I could see the Kings pulling the trigger for that deal without a doubt.

I dont understand liking WCS honestly.

Avery Bradley averages 17/8 with 40% shooting from deep and made 1st team all-Defense just last season.