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Offline Phantom255x

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691917-nba-trade-deadline-2017-br-staff-pre-all-star-trade-deadline-predictions

It's in #12 on this list, and there are a ton of other predictions of trades/non-trades for other teams (ex. Ibaka to Toronto, Nurkic staying put, Brook Lopez staying put, Carmelo joining the Clippers, etc.).

But they argue that, and I quote:

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But the probable cost—both this year and next year's Brooklyn Nets' picks, plus two of Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley and Marcus Smart—is far too steep.

By forfeiting those assets, the Celtics marginally improve but still fall short against the Cavaliers. They'd also surrender this summer's cap space and, quite possibly, a new franchise player.

If they make this trade and Butler, Isaiah Thomas and Al Horford aren't good enough to beat Cleveland, let alone whoever emerges from the Western Conference, what options does Boston then have to improve and win it all?

This is pretty much what I've been saying around here, but some people think my logic is completely flawed.

I would be perfectly fine with trade talks for PG13 or Butler around Draft Day, but now I think the prices are astronomically high and won't help us beat Cleveland still (maybe it gets us to the ECF, but even that's an "if" - have to get past Toronto who could possibly add Ibaka).

Maybe this can turn into the situation with the Red Sox (I know, I know, different sports), where they spent years hoping for Sale but the price was astronomically high, but then the White Sox lowered their price as they realized they needed to rebuild and the RS pounced. Maybe this summer, the Bulls FO realizes that?

EDIT: Sorry I think this wasn't the thread to post it under. Move it if necessary Mods. Thanks!
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Re: Bleacher Report Made Predictions; Think Butler To Boston A Bad Idea..
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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

And I'm enjoying immensely the abject fear that exists of upgrading this fatally flawed roster.
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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

I don't think they are wrong with what they say here though.
"Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert H. Schuller

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 08:35:06 PM »

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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

I don't think they are wrong with what they say here though.

Of course you don't.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 08:36:46 PM »

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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

I don't think they are wrong with what they say here though.

Of course you don't.

Alright, I bite.

What do you think we should do with the assets we have exactly?

Also I'm evidently not the only one here with the sentiment of this "fear" you speak of. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 08:40:52 PM »

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I trust what Ainge has identified as targets. He is a brilliant trader.

As for the fear, you are hardly alone. I, on the other hand, find no joy in the endless hyperbolizing over every breathing soul Ainge drafts. Perpetual rebuilds do not interest me. In the slightest.
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I trust what Ainge has identified as targets. He is a brilliant trader.

As for the fear, you are hardly alone. I, on the other hand, find no joy in the endless hyperbolizing over every breathing soul Ainge drafts. Perpetual rebuilds do not interest me. In the slightest.

I can completely understand that.

I want to see us become contenders as well, and soon.

I do trust Ainge as well, that's not what I'm saying (that Ainge doesn't know what he's doing), but I think even Ainge understands the C's need to be a bit patient now (because the star players out there aren't available at the "right price" it seems, but maybe come Draft Day that changes).
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Phantom, "patience" is not in coach Bo's vocabulary.

Re: Bleacher Report Made Predictions; Think Butler To Boston A Bad Idea..
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 09:02:07 PM »

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Phantom, "patience" is not in coach Bo's vocabulary.

I can tell haha.

Unfortunately Lebron is in the East and the Warriors created a super team.

Otherwise we'd be super close lol.
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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

I don't think they are wrong with what they say here though.

Of course you don't.

Yeah, you are CoachBo after all. You'd rather us sign 5 Michael Beasleys.

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I trust what Ainge has identified as targets. He is a brilliant trader.

Agreed.  Which is why he wouldn't trade BKN 17+18 + two of Smart/AB/Crowder for Butler.
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Quoting the journalistic disaster that is BP doesn't carry any water here.

I don't think they are wrong with what they say here though.

Of course you don't.

Yeah, you are CoachBo after all. You'd rather us sign 5 Michael Beasleys.

Would the five Michael Beasleys all were one shirt and count as one player? That could be interesting.  ;)

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2017, 09:54:48 PM »

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No team would pay that for Butler. Of course we shouldn't trade both BRK picks plus two of Bradley / Crowder / Smart.


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Bleacher Report has some horrible ideas.
Danny Ainge would take his own life before trading away all that stuff for one player.
I'm serious.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2017, 10:34:19 PM »

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I sort of agree. I want Butler, but not for ALL of our assets. I'd say a pick and a player.