I told everyone about a month ago that Okafor wouldn't get much more than a late first rounder. I was called crazy, delusional and insulted in various manners by a few posters on the board. Kind of funny if a month later that is exactly what happens. (unless people are pretending a plodding 28 year third string French center is some kind of haul)
Actually, the argument was that the 76ers couldn't get a 1st for him. The goalposts only moved once the ludicrousness of that statement was made clear. In fact you indicated that many Philly fans would take 2 2nds. If the argument about lottery protection is the only thing standing in the way of this deal then that is further evidence to the stupidity of the statement that he isn't worth a first.
In short, don't break your arm patting yourself on your back. You're still wrong.
That is not true.. there may have been some confusion in a thread with a lot of back and forth, but I repeatedly clarified I said they would only get a late first round for him. If they get a top 14 protected pick for him and it ends up being the 18th or 19th pick I was clearly a lot closer on his value than others were. Not really sure what you are going on about.
There wasn't any confusion in that thread. The statement was made that Philly couldn't get a 1st round pick for Okafor. You yourself indicated that many Philly fans would be happy with 2 2nd round picks. No, it was quite clear what the argument was about.
And as proof, I submit Exhibit A:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=88502.msg2223281#msg2223281
Please note you own quote in that very thread:
Potter you should run a poll on whether people would give up a late first for him. I probably wouldn't.
In other words:
DON'T
LIE
Granath this is pretty obnoxious. I have included the full comments below where I repeatedly said I thought the value of him was a late first round pick and I even explicitly said I meant 20th or late or so.
The fact that I personally wouldn't do a trade of a first round pick for him is not the same as me saying no GM would do it. I think I was pretty clear in my comment about what I meant.
Here they are again
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I told everyone about a month ago that Okafor wouldn't get much more than a late first rounder. I was called crazy, delusional and insulted in various manners by a few posters on the board. Kind of funny if a month later that is exactly what happens. (unless people are pretending a plodding 28 year third string French center is some kind of haul)
Actually, the argument was that the 76ers couldn't get a 1st for him. The goalposts only moved once the ludicrousness of that statement was made clear. In fact you indicated that many Philly fans would take 2 2nds. If the argument about lottery protection is the only thing standing in the way of this deal then that is further evidence to the stupidity of the statement that he isn't worth a first.
In short, don't break your arm patting yourself on your back. You're still wrong.
That is not true.. there may have been some confusion in a thread with a lot of back and forth, but I repeatedly clarified I said they would only get a late first round for him. If they get a top 14 protected pick for him and it ends up being the 18th or 19th pick I was clearly a lot closer on his value than others were. Not really sure what you are going on about.
There wasn't any confusion in that thread. The statement was made that Philly couldn't get a 1st round pick for Okafor. You yourself indicated that many Philly fans would be happy with 2 2nd round picks. No, it was quite clear what the argument was about.
You weren't closer than many others either. Many of us have been saying that Okafor's value was around a mid-1st for a while now. I said he wasn't worth the #3 or even a top 8 during lottery time last year (when his value was a bit higher) and I've also said he was worth more than a 2nd rounder or even a late first (recently). It's only a small, loud segment who was claiming that Okafor was a top 5 talent and an even smaller segment who think he's worth less than a small pizza and a diet coke.
In short, don't try moving the goalposts and then praising yourself. That's all.
Since you seem intent on attacking me here is my exact quote "I am not trolling when I say that is what I feel like Okafor is worth. Potter shared a serious article that was also not an attempt at trolling.
There is a decent amount of players that have made the all-rookie team in the last few years that could not fetch more than a late first round pick at this time. Guys like Mirotic, Clarkson, MCW etc. Heck MCW was rookie of the year.
Everyone associated with the NBA that has commented on Okafor's value has been pretty negative including guys like Lowe and Pelton that most people highly regard. His advanced stats are awful. He has been absolutely roasted in games this year on the defensive end including a game where Utah ran like 6 pick and rolls against him straight and scored on every one.
I 100% believe people that think he is some sort of future star are being pretty ridiculous and ignoring a lot of evidence and respected minds of people that cover basketball.
If Okafor gets traded for a lottery pick I will be the first one to admit I was wrong on this, but I think people that keeping talking about people in Okafor in high esteem are ignoring a mountain of mounting evidence." "Also to be clear o don't think I have said they can't get a first. I believe I have said his value is late first (20th or worst)"Now if they get the pick and it is a lottery pick I will be the first to admit I was wrong on it. It actually seems like there is a chance New Orleans will gave and not get full lottery protection and I would admit I was wrong about it (though I think that is a real bad deal for New Orleans). "
It also just makes the board a mess and unpleasant when you try to put things in huge font and bold and accuse someone of lieing. You also insulted me for my viewpoint in the other thread and all of this is pretty unneccesary just because I don't think Okafor has as high a value as you do.
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