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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2017, 05:48:11 PM »

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The Ewing pick seemed rigged. The corner of the envelope was bent.

At least there is no more David Stern. Maybe Adam Silver thinks it will be good for the league to have the Celtics back at the top, so he will rig it for us.

Professional wrestling is not so bad if it works out for the good guys.

Just kidding, but that Ewing selection seemed completely rigged, and then, it's easy to wonder about Cleveland winning the lottery with next to nothing for ping pong balls.

Oh no the R WORD.... that is taboo here for some. Can you expand on the Ewing deal, I have seen a couple of posts on it in the last week but never knew of any controversy surrounding that draft.

Google the "frozen envelope".

Stern grew up a Knicks fan and did not like that the Cs beat his favorite team all the time. It was an amazing coincidence that during the first lottery his favored team got someone most considered the best prospect to come out of college since Bill Walton. If you look at it there have been a number of amazing lottery coincidences. Jordan getting the #1 pick when he comes out of retirement in 2001 for Washington? The Bulls getting #1 in 1999 when Jordan left the NBA's most popular franchise? Lebron going home to Cleveland? The Cavs again getting the #1 pick when Lebron returned to them (allowing the trade for Kevin Love)? Those are some remarkable coincidences. Some of those seem almost too convenient.

In short, you won't find many Stern fans among the Boston faithful. Maybe it was a series of unlucky coincidences but things really didn't go the Cs way much past Stern becoming commish. Then there's the '97 lottery in which the Cs got absolutely hosed (the odds of that disaster were like winning the lottery), the infamous "no cap relief for Reggie Lewis", the Durant/Oden lottery and a number of other decisions/situations that came up that seemed to go against the Cs. Needless to say, the Leprechaun didn't seem to be around when Stern was commish (until 2008 when he was already starting to step back).

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Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2017, 06:00:09 PM »

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sure looked like one envelope was thrown corner edge first against the lottery bowl, and Stern just happened to pick an envelope that had a bent edge. Interesting !!!!

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
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The Ewing pick seemed rigged. The corner of the envelope was bent.

At least there is no more David Stern. Maybe Adam Silver thinks it will be good for the league to have the Celtics back at the top, so he will rig it for us.

Professional wrestling is not so bad if it works out for the good guys.

Just kidding, but that Ewing selection seemed completely rigged, and then, it's easy to wonder about Cleveland winning the lottery with next to nothing for ping pong balls.

Oh no the R WORD.... that is taboo here for some. Can you expand on the Ewing deal, I have seen a couple of posts on it in the last week but never knew of any controversy surrounding that draft.

Google the "frozen envelope".

Stern grew up a Knicks fan and did not like that the Cs beat his favorite team all the time. It was an amazing coincidence that during the first lottery his favored team got someone most considered the best prospect to come out of college since Bill Walton. If you look at it there have been a number of amazing lottery coincidences. Jordan getting the #1 pick when he comes out of retirement in 2001 for Washington? The Bulls getting #1 in 1999 when Jordan left the NBA's most popular franchise? Lebron going home to Cleveland? The Cavs again getting the #1 pick when Lebron returned to them (allowing the trade for Kevin Love)? Those are some remarkable coincidences. Some of those seem almost too convenient.

In short, you won't find many Stern fans among the Boston faithful. Maybe it was a series of unlucky coincidences but things really didn't go the Cs way much past Stern becoming commish. Then there's the '97 lottery in which the Cs got absolutely hosed (the odds of that disaster were like winning the lottery), the infamous "no cap relief for Reggie Lewis", the Durant/Oden lottery and a number of other decisions/situations that came up that seemed to go against the Cs. Needless to say, the Leprechaun didn't seem to be around when Stern was commish (until 2008 when he was already starting to step back).
This. I was confused when I was a kid in the 2000s because of stern hosing us every time he could
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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 06:03:44 PM »

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The Ewing pick seemed rigged. The corner of the envelope was bent.

At least there is no more David Stern. Maybe Adam Silver thinks it will be good for the league to have the Celtics back at the top, so he will rig it for us.

Professional wrestling is not so bad if it works out for the good guys.

Just kidding, but that Ewing selection seemed completely rigged, and then, it's easy to wonder about Cleveland winning the lottery with next to nothing for ping pong balls.

Oh no the R WORD.... that is taboo here for some. Can you expand on the Ewing deal, I have seen a couple of posts on it in the last week but never knew of any controversy surrounding that draft.

Google the "frozen envelope".

Stern grew up a Knicks fan and did not like that the Cs beat his favorite team all the time. It was an amazing coincidence that during the first lottery his favored team got someone most considered the best prospect to come out of college since Bill Walton. If you look at it there have been a number of amazing lottery coincidences. Jordan getting the #1 pick when he comes out of retirement in 2001 for Washington? The Bulls getting #1 in 1999 when Jordan left the NBA's most popular franchise? Lebron going home to Cleveland? The Cavs again getting the #1 pick when Lebron returned to them (allowing the trade for Kevin Love)? Those are some remarkable coincidences. Some of those seem almost too convenient.

In short, you won't find many Stern fans among the Boston faithful. Maybe it was a series of unlucky coincidences but things really didn't go the Cs way much past Stern becoming commish. Then there's the '97 lottery in which the Cs got absolutely hosed (the odds of that disaster were like winning the lottery), the infamous "no cap relief for Reggie Lewis", the Durant/Oden lottery and a number of other decisions/situations that came up that seemed to go against the Cs. Needless to say, the Leprechaun didn't seem to be around when Stern was commish (until 2008 when he was already starting to step back).

It does seem counter-intuitive that the fate of a billion dollar entertainment franchise will be left to the random bounce of ping pong balls.

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 06:05:49 PM »

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TP to Granath for correctly identifying Family Guy.

That is actually what I want to do to Goodell. The anguish he must have felt after thinking he was off the hook, only to see the Patriots rally back. I laughed like a little school girl.

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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2017, 06:08:00 PM »

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did you catch his handshake with Brady. Looked like Brady was very cold to him.

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2017, 06:19:11 PM »

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did you catch his handshake with Brady. Looked like Brady was very cold to him.

That was mild compared to the Pete Rozelle / Al Davis handshake back in the early 80s. Those guys were enemies to the core.
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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 06:22:24 PM »

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did you catch his handshake with Brady. Looked like Brady was very cold to him.

I would have been cold too.  That commissioner is an embrassment to all football and professional sports.

He looked like a mules rear after all the mistreatment he dished out .

I hope he is caned .......I'm not even a Pats fan ......but they were done wrong on so many levels.

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2017, 06:22:48 PM »

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The Ewing pick seemed rigged. The corner of the envelope was bent.

At least there is no more David Stern. Maybe Adam Silver thinks it will be good for the league to have the Celtics back at the top, so he will rig it for us.

Professional wrestling is not so bad if it works out for the good guys.

Just kidding, but that Ewing selection seemed completely rigged, and then, it's easy to wonder about Cleveland winning the lottery with next to nothing for ping pong balls.

Oh no the R WORD.... that is taboo here for some. Can you expand on the Ewing deal, I have seen a couple of posts on it in the last week but never knew of any controversy surrounding that draft.

Google the "frozen envelope".

Stern grew up a Knicks fan and did not like that the Cs beat his favorite team all the time. It was an amazing coincidence that during the first lottery his favored team got someone most considered the best prospect to come out of college since Bill Walton. If you look at it there have been a number of amazing lottery coincidences. Jordan getting the #1 pick when he comes out of retirement in 2001 for Washington? The Bulls getting #1 in 1999 when Jordan left the NBA's most popular franchise? Lebron going home to Cleveland? The Cavs again getting the #1 pick when Lebron returned to them (allowing the trade for Kevin Love)? Those are some remarkable coincidences. Some of those seem almost too convenient.

In short, you won't find many Stern fans among the Boston faithful. Maybe it was a series of unlucky coincidences but things really didn't go the Cs way much past Stern becoming commish. Then there's the '97 lottery in which the Cs got absolutely hosed (the odds of that disaster were like winning the lottery), the infamous "no cap relief for Reggie Lewis", the Durant/Oden lottery and a number of other decisions/situations that came up that seemed to go against the Cs. Needless to say, the Leprechaun didn't seem to be around when Stern was commish (until 2008 when he was already starting to step back).
I believe!

Selective rigging


Frozen envelope!!

Stern knows where the bodies are buried. He's buried a few himself
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I have a working theory that adam silver is an automatron controlled by stern
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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 06:23:33 PM »

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did you catch his handshake with Brady. Looked like Brady was very cold to him.

I would have been cold too.  That commissioner is an embrassment to all football and professional sports.

He looked like a mules rear after all the mistreatment he dished out .

I hope he is caned .......I'm not even a Pats fan ......but they were done wrong on so many levels.

Canned, also. Either would be appropriate.

Mike

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2017, 01:49:45 PM »

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I mean, If I were a commissioner of a league... and my main concerns are parity and that teams can have stars to sell to their cities. Why not rig the lottery? It makes perfect sense to.

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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2017, 02:12:21 PM »

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The Ewing pick seemed rigged. The corner of the envelope was bent.

At least there is no more David Stern. Maybe Adam Silver thinks it will be good for the league to have the Celtics back at the top, so he will rig it for us.

Professional wrestling is not so bad if it works out for the good guys.

Just kidding, but that Ewing selection seemed completely rigged, and then, it's easy to wonder about Cleveland winning the lottery with next to nothing for ping pong balls.

Oh no the R WORD.... that is taboo here for some. Can you expand on the Ewing deal, I have seen a couple of posts on it in the last week but never knew of any controversy surrounding that draft.
The Ewing draft was the first one that featured a lottery, and the team name was quite literally drawn from a giant lotto ball. Naturally, that's ample food for all sorts of tin hatters and other garden variety conspiracy theorists.
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Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2017, 02:20:41 PM »

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I mean, If I were a commissioner of a league... and my main concerns are parity and that teams can have stars to sell to their cities. Why not rig the lottery? It makes perfect sense to.
I'll share a little secret with you: the league determines the process so they don't have to rig anything. If they wanted to give the top pick to the worst team, they can (and have indeed done so for many years).
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2017, 02:21:19 PM »

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I mean, If I were a commissioner of a league... and my main concerns are parity and that teams can have stars to sell to their cities. Why not rig the lottery? It makes perfect sense to.

Because getting caught opens you up to hundreds of millions in liability and billions in lost business? Even the perception of cheating is severely damaging.

That's why the league has professional auditors running every lottery. But I hear they're all in on it too for some reason.

Re: Brooklyn will win the draft lottery this year
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2017, 03:42:00 PM »

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I mean, If I were a commissioner of a league... and my main concerns are parity and that teams can have stars to sell to their cities. Why not rig the lottery? It makes perfect sense to.
I'll share a little secret with you: the league determines the process so they don't have to rig anything. If they wanted to give the top pick to the worst team, they can (and have indeed done so for many years).

Isn't it computerized anyway so essentially you can just fix it in plain sight?

I'm not making the claim that there is a conspiracy. My main point is, why not rig the lottery? Cleveland Cavaliers are a positive to the league, and has been one of the more lucrative storylines since their drafting of LeBron. When he left, they got more #1 picks and now that storyline has been seen to it's completion as LeBron was enticed to return.  In another timeline where they got the #2 pick and drafted Melo, who can't revert the effects of organizational dysfunction, the NBA doesn't shape out the way that it has to this point.

If I'm Silver, I give the Net's the #1 pick because that is the best chance of stopping the LeBron show that has become the Eastern Conference, whether Boston keeps the player or not. Competition is good for business.