If we get a top two pick...it's going straight out the door

[slightly biased bias fan]

IMO if we get lucky enough to hit a top two pick in the years draft, Ainge is shopping it aggressively to Sacramento for Cousins. Given that the best two players are attacking point guards we won't be keeping them. If Danny believes Thomas is his guy, you don't sit The Number 1 or 2 pick on the bench and play them sparingly for 2-3 season. Neither is slightly defensive minded so they can't play beside I.T who needs his weakness compensated for just as Harden, Kobe ect.

I can see no better rebuild scenario for the Kings then trading Cousins for Lonzo Ball a Cali kid who is flamboyant, even if he isn't the best guy in the draft...it doesn't write better than that.

Unless George suddenly becomes available (which i can't see happening) Cousins is our best shot, and if the last game against GSW is anything to go by he may be Warriors kryptonite. I don't even think we would need to throw in the 18 Brooklyn pick as the Love-Wiggins trade is pretty comparable, with Bennett being a throw in.

[The One]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

[Geo123]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

[GreenFaith1819]

As it should.

Whatever flaws that we note in IT4, Big Al and the rest of this team THIS team is what we have going forward to compete for the next 5-6 years.

Big Al is a talented big and is SMART as well...his skills will not depreciate over the next several years. He was never a super-athletic player to begin with.

IT4 is, well - IT4. I cannot say enough good things about him.

I hope that Danny is looking to add carefully to the core we have NOW - and consider CHEMISTRY.

I hope he learns the lessons of the Kendrick Perkins trade well and I believe he has. Whoever is brought in here needs to ADD to what is already here - not subtract from it. They must be ready to compete and be a part of something bigger than they are.

[slightly biased bias fan]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

At the time of the Wiggins trade he was perceived as a generational talent and Love was playing at at top 10 level.

It's a fairly similar situation

[footey]

Demarcus Cousins and Al Zhorford un same starting lineup? Don't like it.

[Snakehead]

Demarcus Cousins and Al Zhorford un same starting lineup? Don't like it.

Why?

[Geo123]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

At the time of the Wiggins trade he was perceived as a generational talent and Love was playing at at top 10 level.

It's a fairly similar situation

First of all you show the exact reason that a top pick isn't worth what you're suggesting.  Wiggins hasn't turned in to any where near the player some suggested.  BTW I don't remember Wiggins being considered a generational talent, there were real doubts about him having the type A personality to be that good.  Which so far has turned out to be true.   Also Cousins is the top center in the league and isn't going to be traded for that little. 

[droopdog7]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

At the time of the Wiggins trade he was perceived as a generational talent and Love was playing at at top 10 level.

It's a fairly similar situation

First of all you show the exact reason that a top pick isn't worth what you're suggesting.  Wiggins hasn't turned in to any where near the player some suggested.  BTW I don't remember Wiggins being considered a generational talent, there were real doubts about him having the type A personality to be that good.  Which so far has turned out to be true.   Also Cousins is the top center in the league and isn't going to be traded for that little.

Agree.  Wiggins wasn't assured of even being the first pick, much less a generational talent.  We want cousins and it will cost BOTH Brooklyn picks and then some.  One pick, even if it's number 1 won't do it.

[saltlover]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

At the time of the Wiggins trade he was perceived as a generational talent and Love was playing at at top 10 level.

It's a fairly similar situation

First of all you show the exact reason that a top pick isn't worth what you're suggesting.  Wiggins hasn't turned in to any where near the player some suggested.  BTW I don't remember Wiggins being considered a generational talent, there were real doubts about him having the type A personality to be that good.  Which so far has turned out to be true.   Also Cousins is the top center in the league and isn't going to be traded for that little.

Wiggins was not considered a generational type talent, but he was considered above average for a #1 pick.  Generational, IMO, is once every five years or so.  Wiggins was once every 2-3 year level of prospect.  He's been a bit disappointing.  He has the ability to be a terrific defender, and he's mediocre at best. In college, he seemed to reliably play with effort on defense, I don't know why he hasn't in the pros.

Fultz is probably a shade better as a prospect than Wiggins in my opinion, but not too much.  He's not Anthony Davis level.  But again, I think Wiggins has underachieved.

[Granath]

That's pretty logical.

But I'm not confident that the Sac ownership is smart enough to do it.

Not enough to get Cousins, that would be just a start.

At the time of the Wiggins trade he was perceived as a generational talent and Love was playing at at top 10 level.

It's a fairly similar situation

First of all you show the exact reason that a top pick isn't worth what you're suggesting.  Wiggins hasn't turned in to any where near the player some suggested.  BTW I don't remember Wiggins being considered a generational talent, there were real doubts about him having the type A personality to be that good.  Which so far has turned out to be true.   Also Cousins is the top center in the league and isn't going to be traded for that little.

Agree.  Wiggins wasn't assured of even being the first pick, much less a generational talent.  We want cousins and it will cost BOTH Brooklyn picks and then some.  One pick, even if it's number 1 won't do it.

It won't cost both Brooklyn picks. If we get a top two pick that means the season is over. That means Cousins is a one year rental before his contract is up. That's going to have a massive impact on his value. Teams simply don't give up multiple top 5 picks and chances at generational players for one year rentals. No GM in the league would jeopardize their future by trading away chances at generational talent to acquire a mercurial player who has a strong chance of not even being on their team the following year.

Which is why if he's not traded at the deadline I don't expect him to get traded at all.

The only comparison for this would be the Kevin Love/Wiggins deal. Cleveland didn't send back more than Wiggins, a busted former #1 and a trade exemption. Love was 25 and had just averaged 26/12 after coming off injury (and 26/13 the year before that). Moreover, Cleveland was in a WIN NOW scenario and therefore willing to overpay a bit to get the last of their Big 3 (Lebron makes a difference here). Cousins puts up about the same stats, is slightly older and more of a head case while being a better defender and more durable. Thus I don't see a deal for him being much different than the deal for Love.

[FreddieJ]

IMO if we get lucky enough to hit a top two pick in the years draft, Ainge is shopping it aggressively to Sacramento for Cousins. Given that the best two players are attacking point guards we won't be keeping them. If Danny believes Thomas is his guy, you don't sit The Number 1 or 2 pick on the bench and play them sparingly for 2-3 season. Neither is slightly defensive minded so they can't play beside I.T who needs his weakness compensated for just as Harden, Kobe ect.

I can see no better rebuild scenario for the Kings then trading Cousins for Lonzo Ball a Cali kid who is flamboyant, even if he isn't the best guy in the draft...it doesn't write better than that.

Unless George suddenly becomes available (which i can't see happening) Cousins is our best shot, and if the last game against GSW is anything to go by he may be Warriors kryptonite. I don't even think we would need to throw in the 18 Brooklyn pick as the Love-Wiggins trade is pretty comparable, with Bennett being a throw in.

George is more attainable. He hasn't indicated he'd accept an extension

[clevelandceltic]

Why would the player or the team want a change? Cousins has 200 million reasons why and the team just moved into a new arena.

[Chris22]

Draft Fultz or Jackson, sign Noel.

[green_bballers13]

Draft Fultz, play him next to IT.

Draft Jackson, give him and Jaylen Brown 20-30 minutes each.

At some point, a consolidating move might be needed. I could see the Celtics eventually making a KG-type trade by giving up some of these young players. Fultz/Jackson/Smart/Bradley will all have value on the trade market.